>From my time working in the Air Cleaner Lab at Chrysler Engineering, I can tell you that the oil bath type air cleaner only got about 85-87 percent efficiency, but that it would go on forever at that rate because the dirt was constantly being washed out of the filter by the oil being swept up into the filter material and deposited in the sump of the filter. It was good on industrial stuff and tractors because of capacity. If you've ever cleaned one of these things you remember the packed-down sludge in the bottom. We (The Industry) used Arizona Desert dust for testing.It was specially ground to have known percentages of various size particles. It was manufactured by a division of Generous Motors. We fed it into air cleaners being tested while varying airflow rates in a predetermined routine. All dust that got through the filter was captured in an "Absolute Filter" before getting into our vacuum pump. By weighing all filters before and after testing we could determine percentage of efficiency. The paper filters started out at over 98 percent efficiency when new and climbed even higher, to over 99 percent, as they got slightly clogged. Eventually the restriction got so bad as to restrict airflow and degrade performance. I don't recall one ever collapsing, though, unless you tightened the cover down so tight as to deform the element. The very worst filters that I ever saw were the foam ones that were fitted over a frame on the top of the carburetor. They were oiled, then squeezed out. They only filtered to about 70 percent when newly installed. Then, as they accumulated a layer of dirt in the oiled foam the restriction went up to the point where they would catastrophically fail and dump a huge gob of oily dirt down into the carburetor! I don't remember if they ever got into production on Chrysler Corp. products. I sure see a lot of foam filters on engines, but they are always a thick block, so can't collapse. Without mentioning any names, I am leery of foam filters, and laws of physics tell me that the only way to maintain high filter efficiency and lower airflow restriction is to use a larger filter! My 2 cents worth... Joe Savard Lake Orion, MI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Give the gift of life to a sick child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/5iY7fA/6WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/