Here is my take. I have used Amsoil products in my cars for at least the past 15 years and as a former professional mechanic My best reccomendation is Hastings/Amsoil or Wix. There is a bunch of tests on the Amsoil site comparing the filters as well and everone including me thinks that the Fram isnt good enough for the average lawn mower. its all in the marketing I guess. Steve Menard 60 New Yorker w cross rams 67 Barracuda 68 Barracuda 01 Pt Cruiser 05 Magnum (yeah its got a hemi) and its a whole lot of fun to drive hard Ma Mopar got a winner here -----Original Message----- From: Russ Vaughan [mailto:Pacesetter300@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:11 PM To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fram filters Tony, Gil and all: Below is a link of a site that has been referenced by many over the past few years. From this site is a link of recommendations and a letter allegedly from a Allied Signal(Fram) engineer. It also exposes the roots of some of the popular Mopar filters. The information is a couple of years old, but I have seen nothing to change the basic negative recommendation about Fram filters. Recently I went to purchase a fuel filter for a fuel injection application. Fram was the only choice at that particular store. I picked it up and looked at it only to discover it was made in China. I put it back and went elsewhere. Read the information and make your own deductions. http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html Russ Vaughan lettercars@xxxxxxx wrote: In a message dated 3/12/2005 10:38:25 AM Eastern Standard Time, awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx writes: > > > > My mechanic told me that Fram filters were the best. > I have one left. Does anyone want to buy it? > > Tony > > From: <FFGREG32@xxxxxxx> > Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:55:50 EST > To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Fram filters > > I agree Fram filters are bad. I used to buy them until my mechanic friend > scolded me about that issue. Now I buy NAPA Gold or Hayes filters. > Greg (My other vehicle is a 48,000 lb. Pierce) > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Tell me, how does one determine a brand of filter is bad? If the proof is in lack of engine trouble, then my use of primarily Fram filters for 20-30 years and well over 100,000 miles on the 300H alone with no failures whatsoever must indicate they are not too awful!! 300ly, Gil Cunningham Tallahassee, FL [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Help save the life of a child. Support St. Jude Children's Research Hospital's 'Thanks & Giving.' http://us.click.yahoo.com/6iY7fA/5WnJAA/Y3ZIAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/