Val: You are correct that the 1962 Chrysler 300?s came standard with the dual inline 4 barrels. But you must learn to NEVER say NEVER when it comes to MOPAR. Back then you could order most anything that you wanted from MOPAR and if it was on the shelf, fitted the application and was appropriate, you could get it. Now I do not consider myself an expert on this subject, but I do know that the Short Rams were optional on the 1962 Chrysler 300?s. I am guessing that they used a manual brake master cylinder in order to clear the CrossRam carb on the drivers? side. I have just installed a set of Short Rams and Exhaust headers from a ?J? on my ?62 Chrysler 300 ?Sport? ragtop. Somewhere I have an issue of Hot Rod magazine that shows a ?62 Chrysler 300 that Hot Rod campaigned at the ¼ mile drags in 1962 in one of the ?stock? classes. It clearly shows the Short Rams as well as a heater delete plate on the firewall. Big John Mc Adams (In SoCal) -----Original Message----- From: Val Jeffers [mailto:edward1108@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 6:55 AM To: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx; brandt300g@xxxxxxxxx; rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx; akrikhaar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] RE: Short Ram differences The 62 300 never had the 30 inch rams. They only had an "offset" manifold mounting the 2-4 barrel carburetors between the valve covers. I have only seen a picture and even more strange, I was told by a reliable source the manifold was somehow shipped in the trunk and installed by the dealer ? I think the experts here will concur. Thanks, Val Jeffers john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: The only 405 hp 62 300H I have ever seen had light blue short rams, but I don't know if that was correct, but I think it was. The guy who owns it is pretty picky about his restorations. John -----Original Message----- From: Brandt Jimerson [mailto:brandt300g@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 8:10 PM To: Bob Jasinski; Krikhaar, Alex; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] RE: Short Ram differences Hello Bob! I can do some further clarification but not 'all the way' clarification. The F and G (and you may already know but just in case) short rams made 400 hp. with a DIFFERENT cam than the long rams. Believe they were red. The optional H short ram had 405 hp. and believe they were also red. The J and ram K were both 390 hp. Now those were light blue. Also to anyone, if I'm incorrect, don't hesitate to let me know 'cause I can overlook things! I'm not sure about the serial #s though, sorry. What's interesting is that the appearance to all of these short rams, are virtually identical to the long rams, except indentation along the tops of the short rams, stop at the 'summit' versus travelling the whole way to carbs on the longs. Hope I helped! 300ly, Brandt J.......300G. Bob Jasinski <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I would like to see some further clarification on the short ram issue. According to our own website's "All About Rams" article in the Tech section, the short rams were available on the F, G, H, J, and K. There is no difference indicated between the rams offered for those years. Could those in the know explain what differences existed between the early short ram and the later short ram? Are the casting numbers different? How about the appearance? Bob J To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! 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