Gracias, Andy - I had missed that point, and now get it. I will mull it over.. A couple small electric hair dryers, one per side, attached to firewall or inner fenders, aimed at the carb bases, think that will do the trick? J. -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Mikonis Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:42 PM To: John J. Hertog; 'Richard Osborne'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] AFB 2903 electric choke conversion My point was to concur with Warren that the heat tubes serve TWO functions, one is to heat the chokes, the other is to provide heat to intake manifold/ carburetor for proper fuel atomization. Independant of choke operation, you still need that carb heat for proper drivabilty with the engine at operating temp. A normal intake manifold on top of the engine gets heated up by the engine when warmed up even if the heat riser isn't working. On a ram manifold, the carbs are sitting out there cold without the heat tubes. They don't run worth a damn that way. Trust me. Stalling, popping back through the carb, etc. It's why the 400HP short ram F and G's have hot water plumbed in for carb heat even though they have manual chokes. And I hear those cars are still a bear to get warmed up. Andy --- "John J. Hertog" <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Andy, now your statement confuses me most of all. > The purpose of the chokes > are to furnish more fuel / less air when the engine is cold. If one > disconnects the chokes, then the car will be cranky when cold. If one > removes the heat riser butterflies (or jams them) then the car will > run overly rich AFTER it is warmed up and foul plugs. > The purpose of electric > choke system is to get the chokes to "come off" > after the car has run a few > minutes, not the other way around. I don't see > why having electric chokes > would make the car hard to drive when warmed up. > It's the other way around! ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/8LmulB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/