RE: [Chrysler300] Re: [FWDLK] Price Insanity

["christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Just a thought - maybe it is good some people want to spend/waste silly 
money on things like accessory floor mats - that hopefully means they have 
less to push up ebay prices for more essential 300 things/bits more normal 
300 members may need  ??!!

And re car price insanity, over here in Australia , many of us are being 
stunned by latest price just paid/revealed for what is basically a 4 door 
Falcon sedan, not much different to the Falcon you had for sale around 
'67/68.

The model aussie collectors are crazy about was a higher performance model, 
that began as a series in 1967, named GT Falcon. From 69 on, just before our 
biggest annual production car race, Ford released a model they designated 
"HO", usually having more power and handling/durabilty options.

In 1971, it had a higher output 351 Cleveland motor - standard with tuned 
extractors, etc - and an operational hood shaker. About 200 HOs built I 
think - top speed about 135mph, quarter mile in 13s, a small fluro orange 
'HO' sticker on the glove box lid the only i/d apart from a trunk lid 
mounteed spoiler.

Few years ago, worth $25k - 35k, then $75k, then about 6 months ago a 
stunning $400,000 paid, and now one just went for just under $700,000 - not 
even a mint unrestored one, but a 25k miles restored one  
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       So if you want to ask how do you figure 300 prices 
paid at US auctions, think about paying $700k for a 4 door Falcon - looks 
just like most other Falcon 4 doors except wider wheels, stripes down each 
side  !!! And talk is next ones will be over the $Mill mark !!!

Sadly the world is/has changing - when I first got my licence, in the late 
60s gas was 25c a gall, no country speed limits, and I made often twice 
weekly 200 mile each way trips to Melbourne on business and visiting couple 
of stunning girlfriends I had there. Trip took me 2 hours 15-20mins, 
including time stopping for gas about 35 miles before Melb, as at 110 mph 
cruise speed, 350 bhp car woulld not make more than 150 miles on 14 gal 
tank.

Now over here, they would not only jail you, you also lose your car, never 
mind gas price for trip would be around/over $200. So OK you (I think in 
most of US)  cannot drive your 300 at 100 mph cruise, and it only cost you 
$4 to fill the tank, but daily I can still have fun (some) 'ever so briefly 
booting' my 300s up to legal limits, just making sure no sneaky cops lurking 
to pick you on something else they might try on you.

In 10 years, if not already, people are going to look at the 15-20 year 
period up to 1971 approx, as the golden era of ever faster cars built with 
no regard for the law and the planet, and a person's right to drive them as 
they saw fit/safe?
Chrysler's 300s, starting with the '55 300, were up there with the best re 
this, and when the 300's performance mantle waned, other Mopar 426s and 440s 
continued to the early 70s when it was killed off. The actual 'ultimate US 
perf years/models', I would say was only 1967 -1970 ?  - from 71 on 
compression ratios and cams were doomed.  So the 'pinnacle' was only a way 
too brief 3-4 years ?! But lucky for us, over 30 years later, many can still 
have fun despite this ??

And re 'too rich future collectors',  hopefully 'drivers' will always want 
to afford and use 300s as us/those present 300 owners some time in the 
future pass on custody of the 300s that have survived.  We can't stamp out, 
eliminate, those with 'mega bucks', just like we can't take our 300s with us 
when we go.  And if 'crazies' like our $700k aussie GT HO Falcon buyers, and 
your $700 floor mat buyers are distracted on these things, maybe we can 
continue enjoying our 300s in the shade somewhat for a while yet ?!

and ps - I know/have some pretty 'too rich' car collector friends - and they 
are just as/more passionate about driving their rare/fast/valuable cars as 
me/us poorer folks - it's just a bugger some have way more money than us/me 
!!

Christopher in Australia where today I just burned another few fastish gals 
of gas in a 1957 300C on  a two way trip picking up parts for couple of my 
'non 300s' on another brilliant sunny autumn day




>From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
>To: debensonii@xxxxxxxxxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,        
>L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Re: [FWDLK] Price Insanity
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:14:52 EDT
>
>I come down on the side of insanity... $700 plus for a set of floor mats is
>ridiculous!
>
>And, in case no one has thought of it, the person(s) who think nothing of
>paying that kind of money "just because they have it" are driving the 
>"Price
>engine" higher every time they do it, thus making the vintage car hobby
>impractical and unattractive for those of us less well endowed with cash.
>
>  I'm not rich (Except in family and friends), so my car is far  from
>original, but it is presentable.  That is all I can ever hope for, and  I 
>like it.  I
>wish, however, that parts were a little more easy to come by,  so I may 
>just
>have to forget the whole thing some of these days.
>
>It's like the old saw about "experts":, that learn more and more about  
>less
>and less until ultimately they know everything about nothing.
>
>I suspect that if the present trend continues, some few privileged
>individuals will have all the wonderful old cars, AND NO ONE ELSE WILL  
>CARE!
>Barrett-Jackson auction prices illustrate this trend  perfectly.
>
>I used to buy the occasional trinket on Ebay for my 1957 Chrysler  sedan.
>Most of my recent attempts have been foiled by one individual who  seems to 
>have
>very deep pockets, and is apparently bent on buying ANYTHING to do  with 
>the
>1957 Chrysler.  My only guess is that he is reselling them  overseas, 
>because
>that is where he seems to be.  This bad apple has spoiled  the barrel for 
>me,
>and I'm sure that he doesn't even care.  It's enough to  strain one's
>Christian charity.
>
>Sorry for the sour grapes....
>
>
>
>Joe  Savard
>Lake Orion, Michigan
>
>
>
>
>************************************** See what's free at 
>http://www.aol.com.
>
>
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>

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