Re: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents

["Dave Schwandt" <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm 100% sure this piece is a stamped sheet metal part. It don't weigh 
anything hardly at all. Gotta be aluminum.

Dave Schwandt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Jasinski " <ed5000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'christopher beilby'" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Larry 
Nirenberg'" <lnirenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lettercars@xxxxxxx>; 
<chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:16 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents


> What intrigues me most about this piece is how it came to be.  We may 
> never
> know, but a clue to its significance lies in how these unusual 
> alternatives
> were fabricated.  A stamped aluminum plenum substitute makes for a curious
> offering on its own; for whatever reason.  It may be the result of a
> manufacturing run experiment, or as a low cost high-impact marketing idea.
> But a zinc die-cast (white metal alloy) plenum cover option would beg
> further explanation.  Duplicating an otherwise perfectly adequate metal
> stamped piece would be the result of convincing debate on someone's part:
> something that was thought out, justified and funded.  Die-cast tooling 
> has
> always been expensive.
>
> So, are these oddities die castings, or the easier-to- rationalize 
> anodized
> aluminum dress-up alternatives to body-colored steel?   Aluminum and white
> metal can both be referred to as non-ferrous alloys.
>
> Those who may have a grille off their car or whatever, please look at the
> underside of the piece for evidence of mold ejection pin markings or a
> general heftiness to the piece: these castings would be thicker than sheet
> metal.
>
> Ed J
>
> San Mateo, CA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of christopher beilby
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM
> To: Larry Nirenberg; lettercars@xxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents
>
>
>
>
> Just guessing from afar, but with late 50s - early 60s hot rodders - it 
> was
> sometimes a pretty common thing to simply dress up a car a bit above 
> others
> - by chroming the wiper/cowl vent panel - so maybe Chrysler offered two
> options - standard 300F one was painted same body color, or if you wanted 
> it
> a bit more dressy/flash, then you( or a Dealer?) could order one that 
> looked
> chrome/sporty, but it was actually alloy ??! (If they were chrome, one may
> suspect owners did it or maybe Dealer, but in alloy, this had to be 
> factory,
> and deliberate ?!) If price list shows alloy item, my guess is it would 
> have
> been dearer/extra cost/price. Anyone have a price list ? (And if it not a
> big seller, that maybe why it only a one year option?)
>
> Pontiac's early 60s GTO was supposedly born/influenced by what people were
> doing to or with their cars - Chrysler likewise would have been aware of
> what people did to make their cars a bit fancyier/sporty etc? Exner, GM's
> Harley Earl - famous stlyists - all watched what others did, tried.
>
> Christopher in Australia
>
> To: lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars%40aol.com> com; Chrysler300@
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.comFrom> yahoogroups.comFrom:
> lnirenberg@firstmer <mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.comDate>
> chantsgroup.comDate: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:26:32 -0400Subject: RE:
> [Chrysler300] 300F
>
> In looking at my piece it is unlikely it was ever painted._____ From:
> Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
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> OnBehalf Of lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars%40aol.comSent> comSent:
> Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:57 AMTo: lnirenberg@firstmer
> <mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.com> chantsgroup.com; 
> Chrysler300@
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.comSubject> yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:
> [Chrysler300] 300FHi Larry and All:There are indeed two types of cowl top
> air intakes for the 300F. I have no idea why, but a few cars utilize an
> unpainted air intake grill. (All of mineare painted.) Both types are
> identified in the parts book, upg 23-61-0 as Panel, cowl top fresh air
> opening insert. PN 2165 691 is "steel" and 1909441 is "aluminum". Both are
> shown as released for all Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler vehicles.
> The 1961 parts book does not list the aluminum one, so it was a one year
> only venture, I guess. I only have noted a few carswith the aluminum 
> intake,
> but would be interested to hear from members who have originals. Also, I
> suppose it is possible that the aluminum ones werepainted originally, but
> experienced poor adhesion. Conjecture only.300ly, Gil Cunningham In a
> message dated 5/9/2008 7:19:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
> lnirenberg@firstmer
> <mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.com>chantsgroup.com writes:The 
> vent
> intake grille between the hood and base of the windshield in my caris
> natural aluminum maybe anodized hard to tell. I can't seem to find a
> goodpicture of this area of an F and having never seen an F in person 
> other
> thanmine I have no idea if this is correct. Should this be body
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