Re: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents

[Lindsey Fuller <yesdnil@xxxxxxx>]

I have similar shiny pieces on my E as well and have scrounged 2 more 
from salvage yards, off new yorker & saratoga. maybe standard on '59's?
Lindsey Fuller

Dave Schwandt wrote:

>I'm 100% sure this piece is a stamped sheet metal part. It don't weigh 
>anything hardly at all. Gotta be aluminum.
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>Dave Schwandt
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>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Ed Jasinski " <ed5000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: "'christopher beilby'" <thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "'Larry 
>Nirenberg'" <lnirenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lettercars@xxxxxxx>; 
><chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:16 PM
>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents
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>>What intrigues me most about this piece is how it came to be.  We may 
>>never
>>know, but a clue to its significance lies in how these unusual 
>>alternatives
>>were fabricated.  A stamped aluminum plenum substitute makes for a curious
>>offering on its own; for whatever reason.  It may be the result of a
>>manufacturing run experiment, or as a low cost high-impact marketing idea.
>>But a zinc die-cast (white metal alloy) plenum cover option would beg
>>further explanation.  Duplicating an otherwise perfectly adequate metal
>>stamped piece would be the result of convincing debate on someone's part:
>>something that was thought out, justified and funded.  Die-cast tooling 
>>has
>>always been expensive.
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>>So, are these oddities die castings, or the easier-to- rationalize 
>>anodized
>>aluminum dress-up alternatives to body-colored steel?   Aluminum and white
>>metal can both be referred to as non-ferrous alloys.
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>>Those who may have a grille off their car or whatever, please look at the
>>underside of the piece for evidence of mold ejection pin markings or a
>>general heftiness to the piece: these castings would be thicker than sheet
>>metal.
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>>Ed J
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>>San Mateo, CA
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of christopher beilby
>>Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 7:10 AM
>>To: Larry Nirenberg; lettercars@xxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300Fs with alloy vents
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>>Just guessing from afar, but with late 50s - early 60s hot rodders - it 
>>was
>>sometimes a pretty common thing to simply dress up a car a bit above 
>>others
>>- by chroming the wiper/cowl vent panel - so maybe Chrysler offered two
>>options - standard 300F one was painted same body color, or if you wanted 
>>it
>>a bit more dressy/flash, then you( or a Dealer?) could order one that 
>>looked
>>chrome/sporty, but it was actually alloy ??! (If they were chrome, one may
>>suspect owners did it or maybe Dealer, but in alloy, this had to be 
>>factory,
>>and deliberate ?!) If price list shows alloy item, my guess is it would 
>>have
>>been dearer/extra cost/price. Anyone have a price list ? (And if it not a
>>big seller, that maybe why it only a one year option?)
>>
>>Pontiac's early 60s GTO was supposedly born/influenced by what people were
>>doing to or with their cars - Chrysler likewise would have been aware of
>>what people did to make their cars a bit fancyier/sporty etc? Exner, GM's
>>Harley Earl - famous stlyists - all watched what others did, tried.
>>
>>Christopher in Australia
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>>To: lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars%40aol.com> com; Chrysler300@
>><mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.comFrom> yahoogroups.comFrom:
>>lnirenberg@firstmer <mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.comDate>
>>chantsgroup.comDate: Sun, 11 May 2008 09:26:32 -0400Subject: RE:
>>[Chrysler300] 300F
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>>In looking at my piece it is unlikely it was ever painted._____ From:
>>Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
>>[mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
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>>OnBehalf Of lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars%40aol.comSent> comSent:
>>Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:57 AMTo: lnirenberg@firstmer
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>>Chrysler300@
>><mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.comSubject> yahoogroups.comSubject: Re:
>>[Chrysler300] 300FHi Larry and All:There are indeed two types of cowl top
>>air intakes for the 300F. I have no idea why, but a few cars utilize an
>>unpainted air intake grill. (All of mineare painted.) Both types are
>>identified in the parts book, upg 23-61-0 as Panel, cowl top fresh air
>>opening insert. PN 2165 691 is "steel" and 1909441 is "aluminum". Both are
>>shown as released for all Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto, and Chrysler vehicles.
>>The 1961 parts book does not list the aluminum one, so it was a one year
>>only venture, I guess. I only have noted a few carswith the aluminum 
>>intake,
>>but would be interested to hear from members who have originals. Also, I
>>suppose it is possible that the aluminum ones werepainted originally, but
>>experienced poor adhesion. Conjecture only.300ly, Gil Cunningham In a
>>message dated 5/9/2008 7:19:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
>>lnirenberg@firstmer
>><mailto:lnirenberg%40firstmerchantsgroup.com>chantsgroup.com writes:The 
>>vent
>>intake grille between the hood and base of the windshield in my caris
>>natural aluminum maybe anodized hard to tell. I can't seem to find a
>>goodpicture of this area of an F and having never seen an F in person 
>>other
>>thanmine I have no idea if this is correct. Should this be body
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