I must second Wayne's comments on center plane brakes, but in my case the observations apply to the '61 G. I had my G out for a test drive this past July 4th weekend after I installed new KYB shocks, so I put the car through the paces. It felt good, stopped square and with full control. My master and brake cylinders and are all stock components relined with bronze inserts and silicone fluid installed in the system. All new flex hoses were used and he front drums were replaced with good used drums, only cut .020" over, the originals had gone past the .060" limit so I did not reuse them. The shoes were relined at a local shop, Friction Materials, that still relines brakes and clutch discs. I brought them the drums and they arced the relined shoes to the drums for a good fit. I always adjusts the shoes per the manual and run the cam up tight, then back off only enough for the wheel to turn but the drums still lightly touch the shoes when spinning the wheel. Brake performance is quite acceptable, but they will begin to fade after several hard stops, or extended mountain driving, but that is a rare occurrence for me. Bob J _____ From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne Graefen Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:49 AM To: Intl 300; bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Chrysler300] Re:disk brakes for 57's As the keeper of the '57 torch, every once in a while I must reply about inadequate brakes of the Chrysler Centerplane type. 1. These brakes were fully adequate when new and are still adequate for modern traffic. Now, after 50 years, we have virtually lost the machine shop ability to arc grind new linings to the size of the drums but there are still shops that do it. This fitting of shoes to drum is one of two critical concerns with those brakes. The second is that far too often, in the name of saving a few bucks, low quality shoe linings have been purchased and they simply don't grab. Of course there are possible other factors including the installation of close but incorrect shoes, wheel cylinders and master cylinders down through the cars history. There are also low quality brake hoses at parts houses and hobby suppliers again in the name of cost savings. Some mechanics don't bother to properly adjust front wheel bearings even to equal their set from side to side. And suspension wear is setting in lo these many miles. I love disc brakes too as they are superior, but even they only work right when everything else is right. AAJ sells a fine kit with good quality parts. There are even better kits available for more money but some require a change to 15" wheels for caliper clearance. Wayne G [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/