thankyou, - you confirm my belief that one should stay away from heating up and bending forged steering parts...I think I can accomplish the same thing by shortening the inner tie rod ends, if I can get the left hand threads extended a bit on the rod ends...this will give me the desired ability to align the steering, once this brake conversion is completed...the steering geometry should not be changed by shortening the tie rod ends because the disc brake spindles I am adding have longer steering arms anyway, and I would just be adjusting the length of the tie rod system to meet it for connection...all my 300F stock parts would stay intact- just get removed...the modifications will take place on new parts... thanks, John Kuegel --- On Tue, 10/28/08, Hi Tech Auto Parts <htap@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Hi Tech Auto Parts <htap@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the Spindle-300F(conversion) To: "Bill Huff" <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Warren Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, jwkco@xxxxxxxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 4:14 PM I agree bending/heating is dangerous and not good practice.how ever haveing to shorten the tierods that much, will more than likely upset the steering circle/geometry of your car.Chrysler wasnt short on spending $$$ when it came to investing on a good suspension layout and no doubt where the arms sit from factory are the optimum place-once changed how ever your steering capabilities will no doubt deminish with it-tried it once my self-and paid the price on nice orig.steering. Best solution is use orig.steering/ suspension arms and get a bolt on disc brake conversion kit to suit. Geoff Matthews-sunny NZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Huff To: Warren Anderson ; jwkco@yahoo. com ; Chrysler300@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:31 AM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Disc Brakes and the Steering Arm on the Spindle-300F( conversion) I agree bending suspension parts is scary. I wouldn't be so cautious about welding them because I don't trust my welding and always make multiple passes and add gussets. All kidding aside, it seems to me that trying to bend any cast part can only lead to problems. Forged parts are probably not so bad. I think the strength is in the original composition of the steel rather than in heat treating after forging. Still, if I tried that I would reheat the whole part and cool slowly to help relieve stress. Bill Huff At 10/28/200812: 49 PM, Warren Anderson wrote: >Based on my experience with Rare Parts, which has not been vast but >successful, they will do what they say they can do and the result will work. > >Reworking suspension or steering parts in the manner you described >is dangerous. Heat and bend or cold bending is always a "do not do". >Welding up your own suspension/steering pieces might be even more >dangerous but maybe not. And, no, I have never tried either. > >Warren Anderson >Sedona,AZ > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx mailto:Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/