Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Special. #8403110398

[Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

With all these recollections of joy rides and speed records, I start to 
wonder what all the various years of Letter Cars were supposed to do on 
the top end right out of the showroom.  I'd love to do it again sometime 
(this time with a GPS) if I get the chance, but twice in the history of 
my '57C (1963 and 1983) I had it over 145 on the speedo.  I wonder how 
real that was and what the other years of Letters were able to do by 
comparison.  I believe I recall Tom McCahill getting one up that high in 
1957 for Mechanix Illustrated, but then again he may have just been 
believing some inaccurate hype.

Anybody know?

Keith Boonstra
Holland, Michigan

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Dave Schwandt wrote:
>  
>
> My recollections exactly from my visit to you, John, years ago while 
> Wayne
> was still in CA. I enjoy telling folks about that ride to this day!!
> Plus I have the video you shot that day also!
>
> Dave Schwandt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John" <john@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:john%40royze.com>>
> To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300F Special. #8403110398
>
> >
> > I visited Wayne Graefen for 8 days last month and while there we 
> took his
> > 4 speed F "Special" out for a lengthy drive. Wayne changed the rear end
> > gears from 293 to 331 for better street usage.
> >
> > Almost at a full stop on I-10 with four people in the car he smoked the
> > tires through 1st gear and by the time he shifted out of 3rd we were 
> doing
> > 115mph. The car was still pulling strong in 4th (with all of the 
> windows
> > down), but we ran out of road and I needed a change of underwear.
> >
> > This was acomplished on "pump gas" with a 92 rating.
> >
> > John Lazenby
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: John L. Chesnutt
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:22 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300F Special. #8403110398
> >
> >
> >
> > According to an article in the January 1974 Issue of the Chrysler 300
> > Club
> > Newsletter, Ray Doern talked to Greg Ziegler in about 1971, and Greg 
> said
> > that the 4-speed F would go 60 in first, 90 in second, 120 in third and
> > 160
> > in fourth (speedometer reading). There are six full page pictures of the
> > 300F Special. The Newsletter has a lot of information on the 1960
> > Chrysler
> > 300F and a picture of Twin Paxton blowers on the Granatelli 300 Chrysler
> > engine. With the twin blowers, Granatelli pushed the car to a qualifying
> > speed of 165.91 in 1960 and averaged 172 mph for a new Experimental 
> class
> > record.
> >
> > John Chesnutt, 300C - Portland, OR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> 
> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > Behalf Of Burton Bouwkamp
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:11 PM
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] 8403110398
> >
> > I was the engineer in charge of preparing and running the six 300F
> > "specials" at Daytona Beach in February of 1960.
> >
> > The descriptive material that backs up the January 2010 Russo and Steele
> > auction of the Greg Ziegler driven 300F is amazingly accurate.
> >
> > I only have the following "nit picking" with the accuracy of the
> > write-up:
> >
> > 1. Tim Flock (not Warren Koechling) drove the 300B that set the 
> record in
> > 1956. That car was owned and prepared by Carl Kiekhaefer. Tim was 
> Carl's
> > ace
> > NASCAR oval track driver. I was at Daytona in 1956 but I did not have
> > anything to do with the preparation of this car.
> >
> > 2. Greg Ziegler did not input the design of the special Bluestreak 
> tires.
> > That was solely a Goodyear responsibility and those tires absorbed only
> > 10
> > horsepower per tire at a 100 MPH. (15 HP would be normal.) We had
> > wonderful
> > cooperation from everyone in the building of these cars. Perfect Circle
> > volunteered special low tension piston rings. Chrysler Division
> > Manufacturing willingly built the engines with high tolerance 
> bearing and
> > piston clearances and high limit compression ratios.
> >
> > 3. There were only six 300F "specials" in the speed trials at Daytona in
> > February, 1960. Five were purchased cars plus the engineering prototype.
> > 300F's did take the first seven positions in the Flying Mile but the
> > seventh
> > place car driven by R. C. Wooten at 126.6 MPH was a standard production
> > automatic transmission equipped 300F. (The engineering prototype was
> > there
> > as a parts car and I did not intend to run it in competition but 
> when Bud
> > Fauble arrived in Daytona with a sick 300F I relented and let him 
> use the
> > car.)
> >
> > Burt Bouwkamp
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: rob kern
> > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ; mwl1967@xxxxxxx 
> <mailto:mwl1967%40aol.com>
> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 8403110398
> >
> > This is the Greg Zeigler Daytona record setting car. ROB KERN
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mwl1967@xxxxxxx <mailto:mwl1967%40aol.com>
> > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 7:32 PM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] 8403110398
> >
> > Anyone have any comments on the 300F special coming up for sale this
> > January at Russo & Steele in Scottsdale, AZ ?
> >
> > Will definitely be one to watch! Talk about a once in a lifetime
> > opportunity to own a car like this
> >
> > Mike Laiserin
> >
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