I've told this before, but 2 of my 65 300 "L"'s plugs started to seep. I pried them out and found mud behind them which was keeping them from leaking/blowing out. What was left of the plugs themselves were only the edges, the center was rusted away. I replaced them with Brass marine plugs and they are in there to this day nearly 30 years later. I haven't driven it for 20 some years but it's full of antifreeze. After cleaning out the mud which was filling the lower part of the water chambers, I used a driver with different size ends on a ball socket with a somewhat bent handle. This allowed me to get them driven in straight, past obstructions, from an angle. Still have the tool, don't think I ever used it again. Ray On May 26, 2010, at 4:10 PM, Warren Anderson wrote: The post regarding core plugs in a 413 really puzzles me. Never heard that one and have not seen the problem. What I learned to do was to drive the correct size core plug in straight and seat them in #1 Permatex. My experience with the copper plugs taught me that only if driven in absolutely straight would they not collapse ever so slightly and leak and even with #1 Permantex. Copper plugs are so soft and not forgiving in my experiences so I no longer mess with them. With proper cooling system maintenence, iron plugs provide good service life. I have never tried stainless steel plugs. There are numerous freeze plug remover/installer kits that allow an even, straight in push on eBay right now which is the alternate to making installers out of bar stock on a lathe in your garage. There is an expandable brass plug marketed by Dorman that is rated at 200 PSI and is what I have used successfully for a permanent in chassis fix in places where a driver will not be useable. I have not tried one to replace a disc type plug however. I do not think they will replace a disc plug. Rubber plugs might get you home, but most likely not, from what I have seen. Warren Anderson Sedona,AZ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/