I tow a lot of vehicles and I only strap down the wheels. When you do it this way the car move freely on it's suspension and you have a comfortable ride. Strap or chain in the frame or crossmembers the car will jerk and pull and put a lot more stress on tie downs, straps and the car itself. After I have put a car on the trailer I have it tied down and ready to go in five minutes. Take time and see how the professional car haulers tie down their loads to get some pointers. A winch will never replace proper straps or chains, it's only a mechanical clutch that holds it and can break any time down the road. It would be a shame to see a once great Brute sitting in a ditch behind the trailer. You can leave it hooked to the car but always winch out enough for the car to move around after you have tied it down. -- Stig Molteberg, Norway 2001 Dodge Ram 2500 Cummins 1956 Chrysler 300B 1956 Chrysler New Yorker T&C 1956 Chrysler New Yorker St. Regis 1956 Chrysler New Yorker 4d Sedan 1956 Windsor 4d Limousine ----- Original Message ----- From: JD To: 'Knutsen, Mark C' ; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:45 PM Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Trailers and Winches Mark, I've pulled cars in 5-6 different trailers, open and closed, through the years. I have ALWAYS used a 4-point auto tie-down set. Last time I purchased a set online (when I towed my E from TX to AZ). When I got there one of the buckles had bent. Make sure you buy a HD set! Also make sure your D-rings on the floor are reinforced. Many standard trailer setups are more for pulling Corvettes or Cudas and other intermediate cars. I always suggest NO PARKING BRAKE. Why put the stress there? Also you must tie down in neutral, brake off, so that all 4 ties have even pressure. I have seen many people have the brake on or in gear and front is tighter than rear, or vice versa. I have never used a winch, but if you believe it will hold the front tight, maybe two ties in the rear would suffice. Always cross the rear ties that are of course wrapped around opposite sides of the rear axle. Last suggestion, makes sure all four trailer tires are < 5 years old. They will blow out from sitting/dry rot even when they are visually very nice. JD ------------- John Dokos jd195@xxxxxxxxxxx (512) 639-5190 _____ From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Knutsen, Mark C Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 9:31 AM To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Chrysler300] Trailers and Winches I want to thank everyone who responded to my trailer e-mail last week. The trailer, although a little tight, should work out fine. I want to set up a winch system at the front of the trailer (to avoid the gymnastic act of getting out of my car.) I started to do the research into proper winch sizes, mounting, etc and realized I'm most likely reinventing the wheel here. If someone has a setup they are happy with and could forward information it would be very much appreciated. A general tow question. When you transport your car in the trailer, do most people tie down from the rear axle and front sub-frame? Also, do you engage the parking brake? Thinking about winching the car into the trailer I'm wondering about how to accomplish this without a squeeze along side of the car and a cane to push the pedal. Thanks in advance. Hope to show off the completed G and trailer in St. Charles! 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