[Chrysler300] Thoughts on Diamondback's proposed 235/75R14 tires.
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[Chrysler300] Thoughts on Diamondback's proposed 235/75R14 tires.
- From: "Rich Barber" <c300@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:35:34 -0700
Some have pointed out that Goodyear provided the original tires on 300’s, particularly the nylon Blue Streak race-grade tires. Can anyone advise the brand and model of the rayon 8.00 or 8.50x14 tires on the ’64 300K? Matching the original brand would make the tires a little more authentic. It would be a good idea to have a high speed rating if one anticipate standing on it. The table below probably won’t make it through the server filters, but S-rated tires are good for a continuous 112 MPH, T:118; U:124; H:130; V:149, Z: 149+; W:168; (W):168+; Y: 186 and (Y): over 186 MPH. The specifications don’t speak to the occasional short-duration high speed run many letter cars experience. Speed ratings seem pretty hard to find in the tire catalogs.
C300K’ly,
Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
Speed rating <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code#cite_note-16> [17]
Code
mph
km/h
Code
mph
km/h
A1
3
5
L
75
120
A2
6
10
M
81
130
A3
9
15
N
87
140
A4
12
20
P
94
150
A5
16
25
Q
100
160
A6
19
30
R
106
170
A7
22
35
S
112
180
A8
25
40
T
118
190
B
31
50
U
124
200
C
37
60
H
130
210
D
40
65
V
149
240
E
43
70
Z
over 149
over 240
F
50
80
W
168
270
G
56
90
(W)
over 168
over 270
J
62
100
Y
186
300
K
68
110
(Y)
over 186
over 300
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Kern
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 4:56 PM
To: Rich Barber; Keith Boonstra
Cc: millserAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Tom Cox'; 'Chrysler300'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall
Keith,
I want to get the Diamond Back 14s for my C. Let me know when available and I’ll go for 5 with 2.5” WW preferably via Michelin or Bridgestone if possible. I have the wheels from Tony Rinaldi’s project boxed in the attack for the new tires. See you in Lake George! Rob
From: Keith Boonstra
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 2:51 PM
To: Rich Barber
Cc: millserAT@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:millserAT%40bellsouth.net> ; retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> ; 'Tom Cox' ; 'Chrysler300'
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall
For those of you still looking to go with the Diamond Backs, here is the
latest word as of today. The 235/75R_15_s should be available yet this
year. And they are looking at approximately March 2012 for the
235/75R_14_ size. Of course these will be in any whitewall width you want.
After all the stories we went through a few months ago, the choice is
pretty clear. If you've got a trailer queen, Coker or American Classic
is the only way to go. They are very original looking and will score
well with the judges. But they're not a tire you want to drive -
they'll blow out on the highway. If you want to hit the American Road,
it will be worth every penny to spring for a grand on Diamond Backs as
they only use Level 100 tires.
I'll let you know when I hear further on the 235-14 progress.
Keith Boonstra
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On 8/31/2011 3:26 PM, Rich Barber wrote:
>
> I’m shopping tires for my 300K. The build card indicates 8.50 X 14
> Rayon tires came on it and this is consistent with the 8.50 x 14 being
> standard on ram cars and optional on other K’s.
>
> American Classic seems to have a P235/75R15 with 1” WSW.
>
> See:
> http://www.americanclassictires.com/types-of-whitewall-tires/75-series-narrow-whitewall/
>
>
> Lucas and others retail them. See:
> http://www.lucasclassictires.com/RADIALS031811_1749.htm $261, each at
> Lucas or Coker.
>
> This site has a comprehensive set of dimensions for tires, old and
> new: http://carnut.com/specs/tires.html
>
> 8.50/8.55 x 14 height: 28.1”, P225/75R14: 27.3”, P235/75R14: 27.9”
> (American Classic spec’s: 27.87”)
>
> It would be good to hear from anyone having installed a set of
> P235/75R-14’s on a 1964 300K. Any problems with difficulty in balance,
> premature wear or failure? rubbing on suspension? alignment issues?
> Appearance? Would be good to know before buying five of these
> overpriced tires. American Classic seems to have a monopoly on this size.
>
> BTW, I had one ruined tire on the 1964 300K I just took delivery on,
> so I had it removed from the wheel. The wheel is stamped on the inside
> with 14X6K-1 and, underneath the size, the numbers 2 and 64—and nearby
> the word “Kelsey”. As the car was shipped 12/12/63, the 2 64 possible
> date mark is puzzling.
>
> Having no spare for the K, I installed the spare from my ’55 C300. The
> 3” WSW L78-15 on a wire wheel looked pretty sharp!
>
> C300K’ly,
>
> Rich Barber
>
> From: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Edward Mills
> Antique Tractors
> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:18 AM
> To: mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>
> Cc: Tom Cox; Chrysler300
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
>
> Plenty of options in the smaller size P215/75R14 (old 8.00-14/8.25-14)
> or P225/70R14 (G70-14). See Firestone, Cooper, Hankook, Khumo, maybe Toyo.
>
> Nothing in P225/75R14 (8.50-14/8.55-14). Not much in P235/75R14 (See
> Coker / American Classic).
>
> Diamondback mostly adds whitewalls to existing blackwall carcasses
> (Michelin, Goodrich, or whatever) - you can pretty much get any
> whitewall width - but you have to have a blackwall tire as a starting
> point and currently there is nothing in the bigger 14 inch to start with.
>
> On 8/31/2011 11:37 AM, mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net
> <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>
> <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > I am committed to using 14 inch tires. any suggestions? What are
> > DiamondBacks? I like th 1 1/4 to 2.0 inch whitewalls.....
> >
> > J D Jung
> > Retromobilia.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tom Cox" <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>
> <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net> <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>>
> > To: "C Bilter" <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>
> <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com> <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>>,
> > mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:45:47 AM
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
> >
> > I am running DiamondBacks for all my classic cars. Never a problem; I
> > love
> > them and would use no one else. Pricey, maybe, but great quality and
> good
> > service.
> >
> > From: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
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> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
> > Behalf Of C Bilter
> > Sent: 2011-08-30 7:50 PM
> > To: mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
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> > Subject: [Chrysler300] Whitewall Tires for H or J with one inch
> whitewall
> >
> > Other than Diamondback ($$$$) I am finding virtually squat for the
> > correct
> > whitewall in radials. Several years ago this was no problem for the
> > P235/75R15 tire. Now, Broadway Classics and Dimension IV are no longer
> > made, American Classics only have 1.6” in this size, and Cooper and
> > others
> > only have a ¾” whitewall. The only one close to the correct 1 and
> > 1/16” to
> > 1 and 1/8” I can find is Champiro 75 by GT Radial with a 1.25”
> > whitewall. I
> > am extremely hesitant to go with these, both on principle because they
> > are
> > made in Asia and also because I suspect they are junk. Has anyone tried
> > them? Has anyone found other tires in the last year or so with the
> proper
> > whitewall? I will not put a ¾” whitewall on a J; it doesn’t look
> > right, and
> > I will not run bias plys, which actually cost even more. Whitewalls at
> > the
> > tire stores are going down the path to oblivion faster than a shine
> > runner
> > in a 300C. Looks like 1.6 inch American Classics or cough up the
> coin for
> > Diamondbacks unless anyone has a better idea.
> >
> > 300Jly,
> >
> > Carl Bilter
> >
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