Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J ( or K) with one inch whitewall

[Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm firing myself as information carrier pigeon between the 300 Club and 
Diamond Back!

I just talked to Bill Chapman, the owner of Diamond Back Tires, and he 
would like to join the Chrysler 300 Club, Intl. so he can participate in 
our forum discussions.  Bill is singularly dedicated to producing only 
high quality, safe tires for the collector hobby, and in my discussions 
with him it's obvious he really knows the industry.

For unusual size requirements such as ours, he is working with smaller 
independent tire makers in Thailand who make very high quality custom 
run tires in "segmented" molds.  In our hobby Diamond Back is the only 
company doing this.

I've never had any connection to Diamond Back, but I appreciate their 
approach and what they are doing that benefits people like us in this 
crazy hobby we have.  They are a tremendous asset we badly need.

Let's hope Bill comes in on the forum soon.

Keith Boonstra

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On 8/31/2011 5:40 PM, Thomas Miller wrote:
> Keith,
>
> Do you know what manufacturer's tire Diamond Back is going to use?
> 235/75R-14 tires don't seem to be on any current manufacturer's lists.
> I have a '57 300C and keep a watch out for this particular size, but
> they seem to be made of "unobtainium"!
>
> Is there a manufacturer that is going to make these tires again?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Thomas F. Miller
> tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> '57 300C, '57 NewYorker Town&  Country
>
>
>
>>>> Keith Boonstra<kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  08/31/11 3:51 PM>>>
> For those of you still looking to go with the Diamond Backs, here is
> the
> latest word as of today.  The 235/75R_15_s should be available yet this
>
> year.  And they are looking at approximately March 2012 for the
> 235/75R_14_ size.  Of course these will be in any whitewall width you
> want.
>
> After all the stories we went through a few months ago, the choice is
> pretty clear.  If you've got a trailer queen, Coker or American Classic
>
> is the only way to go.  They are very original looking and will score
> well with the judges.  But they're not a tire you want to drive -
> they'll blow out on the highway.  If you want to hit the American Road,
>
> it will be worth every penny to spring for a grand on Diamond Backs as
>
> they only use Level 100 tires.
>
> I'll let you know when I hear further on the 235-14 progress.
>
> Keith Boonstra
>
> -
>
> On 8/31/2011 3:26 PM, Rich Barber wrote:
>> I’m shopping tires for my 300K. The build card indicates 8.50 X 14
>> Rayon tires came on it and this is consistent with the 8.50 x 14
> being
>> standard on ram cars and optional on other K’s.
>>
>> American Classic seems to have a P235/75R15 with 1” WSW.
>>
>> See:
>>
> http://www.americanclassictires.com/types-of-whitewall-tires/75-series-narrow-whitewall/
>
>>
>> Lucas and others retail them. See:
>> http://www.lucasclassictires.com/RADIALS031811_1749.htm $261, each at
>> Lucas or Coker.
>>
>> This site has a comprehensive set of dimensions for tires, old and
>> new: http://carnut.com/specs/tires.html
>>
>> 8.50/8.55 x 14 height: 28.1”, P225/75R14: 27.3”, P235/75R14:
> 27.9”
>> (American Classic spec’s: 27.87”)
>>
>> It would be good to hear from anyone having installed a set of
>> P235/75R-14’s on a 1964 300K. Any problems with difficulty in
> balance,
>> premature wear or failure? rubbing on suspension? alignment issues?
>> Appearance? Would be good to know before buying five of these
>> overpriced tires. American Classic seems to have a monopoly on this
> size.
>> BTW, I had one ruined tire on the 1964 300K I just took delivery on,
>> so I had it removed from the wheel. The wheel is stamped on the
> inside
>> with 14X6K-1 and, underneath the size, the numbers 2 and 64—and
> nearby
>> the word “Kelsey”. As the car was shipped 12/12/63, the 2 64
> possible
>> date mark is puzzling.
>>
>> Having no spare for the K, I installed the spare from my ’55 C300.
> The
>> 3” WSW L78-15 on a wire wheel looked pretty sharp!
>>
>> C300K’ly,
>>
>> Rich Barber
>>
>> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Edward Mills
>> Antique Tractors
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:18 AM
>> To: retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>
>> Cc: Tom Cox; Chrysler300
>> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
>>
>> Plenty of options in the smaller size P215/75R14 (old
> 8.00-14/8.25-14)
>> or P225/70R14 (G70-14). See Firestone, Cooper, Hankook, Khumo, maybe
> Toyo.
>> Nothing in P225/75R14 (8.50-14/8.55-14). Not much in P235/75R14 (See
>> Coker / American Classic).
>>
>> Diamondback mostly adds whitewalls to existing blackwall carcasses
>> (Michelin, Goodrich, or whatever) - you can pretty much get any
>> whitewall width - but you have to have a blackwall tire as a
> starting
>> point and currently there is nothing in the bigger 14 inch to start
> with.
>> On 8/31/2011 11:37 AM, retromobilia@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>
>> <mailto:retromobilia%40comcast.net>  wrote:
>>> I am committed to using 14 inch tires. any suggestions? What are
>>> DiamondBacks? I like th 1 1/4 to 2.0 inch whitewalls.....
>>>
>>> J D Jung
>>> Retromobilia.net
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tom Cox"<tdcox@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>
>> <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>  <mailto:tdcox%40bellsouth.net>>
>>> To: "C Bilter"<cbilter@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>
>> <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>  <mailto:cbilter%40mchsi.com>>,
>>> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:45:47 AM
>>> Subject: [Chrysler300] Tires for H or J with one inch whitewall
>>>
>>> I am running DiamondBacks for all my classic cars. Never a problem;
> I
>>> love
>>> them and would use no one else. Pricey, maybe, but great quality
> and
>> good
>>> service.
>>>
>>> From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  [mailto:
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>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>  ] On
>>> Behalf Of C Bilter
>>> Sent: 2011-08-30 7:50 PM
>>> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>> <mailto:Chrysler300%40yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: [Chrysler300] Whitewall Tires for H or J with one inch
>> whitewall
>>> Other than Diamondback ($$$$) I am finding virtually squat for the
>>> correct
>>> whitewall in radials. Several years ago this was no problem for
> the
>>> P235/75R15 tire. Now, Broadway Classics and Dimension IV are no
> longer
>>> made, American Classics only have 1.6” in this size, and Cooper
> and
>>> others
>>> only have a ¾” whitewall. The only one close to the correct 1
> and
>>> 1/16” to
>>> 1 and 1/8” I can find is Champiro 75 by GT Radial with a 1.25”
>>> whitewall. I
>>> am extremely hesitant to go with these, both on principle because
> they
>>> are
>>> made in Asia and also because I suspect they are junk. Has anyone
> tried
>>> them? Has anyone found other tires in the last year or so with the
>> proper
>>> whitewall? I will not put a ¾” whitewall on a J; it doesn’t
> look
>>> right, and
>>> I will not run bias plys, which actually cost even more. Whitewalls
> at
>>> the
>>> tire stores are going down the path to oblivion faster than a
> shine
>>> runner
>>> in a 300C. Looks like 1.6 inch American Classics or cough up the
>> coin for
>>> Diamondbacks unless anyone has a better idea.
>>>
>>> 300Jly,
>>>
>>> Carl Bilter
>>>
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