Great recap Professor Rich! While it seems that a dual master cylinder solution for Ram J/K cars is something of a unicorn, a well-respected professional who subscribes to this list "may" have a viable solution in the works. Should more info on this point emerge it will surely be shared with the group. For now, it's a single master cylinder reality for those who live in a Ram J/K world. (And that ain't so bad!) Keep the brake fluid topped off and the shiny side up! 300KL'y, David A. Morrison Radnor, PA Sent via mobile On May 31, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "Rich Barber-Desktop" <c300@xxxxxxx> wrote: > I’m not yet fully qualified to lecture on my ram-engined 300K convertible, but can offer the following for those even less informed than I: > > With the shortened wheelbase of Chrysler 300’s in 1962, there was no longer room for a firewall mounted power brake booster and master cylinder if the car had a cross-ram engine. In 1962, the 300H engine had an inline dual quad inlet manifold. In 1963 and 1964, Chrysler again offered the short-ram engines and mounted a non-power brake master cylinder (without the booster or outlet check valve) on the firewall and connected it to a second (slave)master cylinder equipped with a booster and mounted in the left front wheel well. The outlet of the second master cylinder is a single line going to the usual distribution block and providing vacuum-boosted hydraulic pressure equally to all four cylinders. The booster has a little air filter on its atmospheric air side and is connected to the intake manifold to tap engine vacuum with a little check valve. This really looks hinky, but it works and I understand it is a rather routine installation on older heavy trucks. > > One of the main issues discussed at length lately is how to plumb a disc brake conversion on a ’63-’64 Chrysler 300. There is little likelihood of finding or retrofitting a hydraulically-actuated dual master cylinder to the remote booster. A single line system could probably be plumbed from the outlet of the boosted MC that would enable a restrictor/proportional valve to reduce pressure to the rear brakes and prevent premature lockup. > > By 1965, the ram engines were history and complete power brake units were returned to the firewall with dual outlet master cylinders. > > Additions/corrections welcomed. > > Rich Barber > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Martin > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:30 PM > To: John McAdams; torquechap@xxxxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Question About Dual Master Cylinder Conversion with Remote Booster? > > > John > > I could not address the uniqueness of the power brake booster on a 300K as I have never seen one. I provided the coverage of my brake install as a reference point for others who may consider using an AAJ kit. > I did respond to the member with the K who was wondering about the plumbing to convert to a dual master cyl. I can't see where a K would be different unless there is an hydraulic feed to the booster other than the usual vacuum lines. > > Those more familiar with a K hopefully can address the booster issue. > > Paul > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ To send a message to this group, send an email to: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx or go to http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join and select the "Leave Group" button For list server instructions, go to http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm For archives go to http://www.forwardlook.net/300-archive/search.htm#querylangYahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Chrysler300/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: Chrysler300-digest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Chrysler300-fullfeatured@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Chrysler300-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/