Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box

[Keith Boonstra <kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes, this is a 300C.

Keith Boonstra

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On 3/3/2013 12:22 AM, christopher beilby wrote:
> I have not been reading many posts on the site lately - too many cars 
> and not enough brains/time - but pre 1958 300 power steering boxes I 
> think had upper part with non red oil, but then after '58 new box 
> was/is way simpler, and only used red oil in all ?!
>
> Is the box here in a 300C - 1957 - as if it is, it is not the later 
> simpler box used for many later 300s/Mopars?! And will havetwo oil 
> types ??!
>
> Christopher in Australia - autumn just began here, 1st last few nights 
> are already like we might get a cold winter - hope not - gas prices 
> about 160 c a litre for low octane, higher add another 12-15cents  - ouch
>
> > To: kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx; rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > CC: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > From: rixpac@xxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 21:53:24 -0700
> > Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box
> >
> >
> > I have rebuilt, resealed and modified to firm feel, the Chrysler 
> power steering boxes. There is not two different oils in the system. 
> Seal kits do not come with rusty snap rings.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To: rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > CC: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > From: kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2013 23:07:47 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Bob,
> >
> > Fact is, I don't have my service manual here at home, and it's been 
> well
> > over a year since I studied the PS section of the book. But the oil
> > leaking out of that joint looks more the color of engine oil rather 
> than
> > red, and it was the folks at S&G who told me that the upper section of
> > the box is separated from the PS fluid filled lower section and 
> contains
> > a "gear oil".
> >
> > I'm rather at a loss to be positive about this info until I get a 
> gander
> > at my manual. Best solution in the world will be if we find you are
> > correct and I can cure it with some Lucas PS leak stopper.
> >
> > Keith
> >
> > -
> > On 3/2/2013 7:18 PM, Bob Jasinski wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith,
> > >
> > > Just out of curiosity, how could a power steering box leak gear 
> oil, not
> > > power steering fluid? Where is gear oil used in a 300C other than the
> > > differential or a manual trans or manual steering box (if so
> > > equipped)? You
> > > have power steering in your C, right?
> > >
> > > Bob J
> > >
> > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > ] On
> > > Behalf Of Keith Boonstra
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:49 AM
> > > To: Richard Osborne
> > > Cc: Brandt Jimerson; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Chrysler power steering box
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm sure Steer and Gear is a fine company trying to do a very good 
> job,
> > > but they left me in a bit of a quandary I still haven't sorted my way
> > > out of. A couple years ago I had my C down to the frame. And even
> > > though there was nothing wrong with the steering box, I thought it 
> would
> > > be smart to send it out to be rebuilt while it was easy to R&R. Seemed
> > > smart anyway.
> > >
> > > I got it back looking all fresh and brand new from Steer and Gear, put
> > > it back on the frame, and went about building the whole car - 
> including
> > > the front clip - around it. Well; lo and behold, the dang thing 
> started
> > > leaking gear oil - not PS fluid - at a rate of three or four drips 
> a day
> > > from the joint between the upper and lower sections of the box. It's
> > > still dripping every day, and it will until it finally runs out of 
> gear
> > > oil - or we pull it back out and do the rebuild over. The gasket at
> > > that joint cannot be replaced without taking the box out of the car.
> > >
> > > This is a real PIA job that shouldn't have had to happen. I so don't
> > > even want to find out how hard it is to pull the steering column and
> > > snake the steering box out between the engine and the inner fender
> > > without doing any body damage. The book says it's possible, but can I
> > > really do that without scratching paint anywhere at all?
> > >
> > > I have told S&G about it and to their credit they are at least mildly
> > > sympathetic. They said, "No problem. Just ship it back and we'll 
> do the
> > > job over". Easily said. I asked if they would cover my R&R cost, and
> > > they said they would not. They said they would do a second one 
> free for
> > > me if I ever needed it, but they won't help me out on this R&R. 
> And why
> > > would I want to send a second one in for a rebuild after this 
> experience.
> > >
> > > In the meantime I'm just procrastinating a job I'm going to hate,
> > > knowing full well I'll wreck the box if I don't fix it before it runs
> > > out of gear oil. I wish someone would have been there at the time to
> > > tell me to just clean up the box, and don't mess with something that
> > > ain't broke.
> > >
> > > Has anyone on the forum had the experience of removing the 
> steering box
> > > from a '57 or '58 with the engine in and the front clip on? How bad is
> > > it? Tell me it's not going to be as tough as it seems.
> > >
> > > Class? Anyone?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Keith Boonstra
> > >
> > > -
> > > On 3/2/2013 9:50 AM, Richard Osborne wrote:
> > > > Hi Brandt,
> > > >
> > > > Send it to Steer and Gear. They will rebuild it. They can even 
> give you
> > > options as to the "feel" you get when driving. They are life long 
> Mopar
> > > people and will treat you right. They did my G as well as a bunch 
> of other
> > > cars for me.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.steerandgear.com/index.html
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > >
> > > > Richard Osborne
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 1, 2013, at 10:06 PM, Brandt Jimerson brandt300g@xxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hello to all in 300sville!!
> > > >>
> > > >> Well Melissa would be pretty nice if it weren't for a severe power
> > > steering box leak. I found a 1961 Chrysler Newport power steering 
> box on
> > > line but I don't know if it will work for my G. Is it better to 
> take apart
> > > what I have and just replace the seal(s) or do I need a whole new 
> box!? I
> > > know Timo T., from Riverside, Ca., sells them but I don't know his 
> number.
> > > The box for the '61 Newport that I came across on line is $585 
> with a $300
> > > core deposit. Someone please give me a 'shoutback' and let me know 
> and
> > > thank
> > > you kindly in advance!!
> > > >>
> > > >> Sincerely & 300ly, Brandt H J with a leaky G.
> > > >>
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