Re: [Chrysler300] 1963 Chrysler 300 Torqueflight

["Robert Hayen" <robert554@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

if the clearence  on the forward clutch  is to tight, the car will tend to creep forward in  neutrel . your trransmission guy knew this, so he loosened the clearence  a little in the forward clutch.. i cant figure out why he would take out the  new style high clutch and put the older one back in though.. now you have a problem with either the govenor  or the valve body ( the no down shift problem ) . if the clearences are right  in the clutch packs  the transmission wil shift very crisp   with type f or dextron lll        bob hayen 406 752 5152----- 
  From: kmaniak@xxxxxxx 
  To: mplindahl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1963 Chrysler 300 Torqueflight


    

  Hi Mark:

  Here is my "two-cents" for what it's worth, tapping into my "half-vast" knowledge of Torqueflites and automatic transmissions, in general.

  Fluid - Back in 1963, I was aware of two types of automatic transmission fluid, Type A, which was specified for the Torqueflite, and Type F (F meaning Ford), which was specified for the Ford C-4 and C-6 transmissions. Type A fluid was known for reducing friction between the friction material and metal mating surfaces during gear changes, while Type F was known for promoting friction between friction material and metal mating surfaces. Type A fluid was later replaced by the various forms of Dextron and Dextron has the same friction quality as Type A. I run Dextron in all my Chryslers without any issues. The fluid you choose to run in your car is up to you.

  Drift in Neutral - The early aluminum Torqueflites use a cable between the shifter and the valve body. This cable has an adjusting wheel at the point where the cable attaches to the transmission case. The tendency for the car to either drift forward or backward with "Neutral" selected on the shifter is a clear indication that the shifter cable is out of adjustment. The factory service manual shows the procedure for properly adjusting the cable so that drift is eliminated.

  Kickdown - Wide Open Throttle (WOT) kickdown of the transmission requires that the throttle linkage and associated transmission kickdown linkage is properly attached and adjusted. If your car does not kickdown to second with WOT, then I suspect the linkage has either become detached or is out of adjustment. The factory service manual specifies the proper adjustment procedure for the throttle and transmission linkage.

  Chris - the K MANIAC
  Concord, California

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mark Lindahl <mplindahl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: chrysler300 <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Sun, Jun 2, 2013 10:36 am
  Subject: [Chrysler300] 1963 Chrysler 300 Torqueflight

  Hi All,

  My '63 torqueflight was rebuilt about 3000 miles (2 years) ago and initially
  filled with Type F trans fluid. When I revved the engine in neutral, the
  car would drift forward. I believe he initially took the original drum out
  and used a later model drum because he said the early aluminum drums had
  some type of leaking seal problem (as I remember the story). When I
  complained about the drifting forward in neutral, the guy took out the
  trans, put back the original drum (possibly adjusted the gap on the clutch
  plates?) and everything seemed to be fine. I asked him, " did you refill
  the trans with Type F trans fluid?". His reply was, "No, but we used the
  latest and greatest trans fluid (Dextron 5, I believe) and it is better than
  that older stuff". At that point, I just took the car and it seemed to be
  OK. Now, following the trip to St. Louis, I can't get it to downshift. If
  I push the 2nd gear button manually, it will downshift, but it will not do
  so automatically. 

  Is there a possibility that the trans fluid may be the issue? 

  Before the initial rebuild, it used to chirp between 1st and 2nd gear. Now,
  no chirp. It is more of a gradual shift rather than a hard shift. This is
  not what I am used to.

  There was at least one problem with the "Sprag Spring" ,which was the reason
  for the original rebuild, but now I think there are other problems.

  Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

  300ly,

  Mark Lindahl

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