Re: [Chrysler300] Judging

All points mentioned are valid. It's an owners choice of how anal to be.
Some just like to "Keep the pedal to the metal" and others don't like to drive it off and on the trailer.

Concours is mostly an evolution process, that is, by using the Clubs Judging process, you can improve the car.

We have had fights after judging and some never came back because their "Baby" lost some points.

Others have come to concours with the restored car and then offered it for sale as an "Internationally Judged Award winner"

But the best attitude was Dudley Finneyfrock's

He brought his Hurst to concourse year after year.
He would leave the judges alone, he graciously accepted his award, if any, at the banquet.

He would go home and wait a week or so before looking at the judging sheets.
He would go to each item that lost points, and look to see if he agreed that the deduction was warranted.

If he agreed, he would fix or repair the item and move onto the next one.
Then back next year for another round.

That car is now in the Chrysler Museum, they bought it from him as a great example of the Hurst.

That is the best use of the judging we offer, remember the judges, as all of us are, are volunteers, with feelings.

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:50 PM, dan300f@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all:

All this info about what is correct or not correct is interesting. As for me, I couldn't give a hoot. I will make my cars just as I want them and let my heirs worry about value. I am now 77 and intend to live to 110. I will enjoy my cars as I see fit until then. Maybe even get buried in one of them ... Hee hee!

Dan Reitz

In a message dated 1/16/2015 1:40:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

I forgot to mention this in my post...

The club has people's choice voting and awards at every meet. Concours judging is only done at the fall meets and has an entry process and fee. The club uses a 1,000 point scale for concours judging.

There's no study on this, but I believe most point deductions are taken in the Engine Compartment, Chassis and Interior sections. That's where the details really add up and make a difference. Thoughts about concours judging often turn to competition. I think a better focus is on judging as an educational process. The judges and model year consultants are happy to help along the way.

I can't remember how the club used to handle judging forms in the past. Maybe sample forms were available. I'll ask around and see if we can post something on the website.

Jim Krausmann

From: "John Holst jholst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:08:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Judging

If you do a Google search for Concours Judging criteria you will find a great selection of options. Some use a 400 point scale and down to a 100 point scale. Point deduction for the original/correct paint displayed varied for each scale used. Is there a standard judging criteria list available? This could be available for member digestion on the Club site. Something to consider. Most owners will seldom or never get involved in a true judging event, but knowing the rules up front would be a help in preparing or maintaining your car for your own use and for the possibility of a future sale.
John Holst...

At 05:13 AM 1/16/2015, you wrote:

The standard concours deduction is 100 points for a non authentic color. That's described as non original to the car and was never a Chrysler factory color that year.
The standard deduction for a non original color is 50 points. That's a color that was not original to the car but was a Chrysler factory color that year.

Jim Krausmann

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