Re: [Chrysler300] Judging

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Shannon LabLoverDC@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

When I got my first letter car (a 300G), I was absolutely set on painting it a raspberry color I had seen on a convertible New Yorker, and installing a white and raspberry leather interior, just like the New Yorker had. In fact, seeing that New Yorker was what lead me to '60/'61 Chryslers to begin with, and from there I discovered how cool letter cars were, which in turn resulted in my getting the G. I really didn't care about keeping it stock or considering the value--I just wanted what I wanted. However, before starting restoration on the G, a good deal on a convertible F turned up, so I sold the G and bought the F.

In the meantime, I read more and more about the letter cars, joined this club and read all of the posts, and ultimately decided to stick with the factory black on the F. In my minds eye, though, I still envision the car in that beautiful raspberry color like the New Yorker (whether that was a stock color or not, I don't know). In the end, I based the decision primarily on preserving the value, and although I hope to have the car forever, it's comforting to know if I have to sell it, the value will not be suppressed by the color change. And, to me black cars look sharp, and I like that color on the F, so it's not too bad a tradeoff.

All that said, I still enjoy the heck out of my '67 Mustang Fastback 390 GTA, which is a beautiful House of Kolor candy apple purple, and value be darned--I like it!

Shannon
300F convertible

PS My apologies if this post appears twice--my iPad had a hiccup.

On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Travis Baker travisbaker4@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,

Two years ago I repainted my G. It rolled out of the factory White. For the longest time I agonized over changing the color. I even

asked 1000 people, of which 500 said original and 500 said change.

The first Letter Car I'd ever seen was painted a ( non original) Hot Corvette red, and to me was the most beautiful car I think I'd ever laid eyes on.

I now kinda understand what Keith Boonstra and many of the " Old School" owners are saying in their comments concerning

our cars and the importance of originality.

I also understand and agree with Warren Wubker and the ' it's my car ' philosophy.

Anyway, I took my G to the paint shop and chose a Hot red ; however, in the days the car was being prepped I had a change of heart

and ultimately went with white. My girlfriend said white look looks more 'rich and elegant' on this style of car.

She is a stunningly beautiful automobile wearing her long white dress, and people are blown away when they learn that these Beast use to roam the earth as offspring of the original 300.

With all of that said, if I'm fortunate enough to own another one that needs repaint,' Hot Ticket Getting Red ' will be my choice of color. I think.

Travis

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 4:50 PM, dan300f@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi all:

All this info about what is correct or not correct is interesting. As for me, I couldn't give a hoot. I will make my cars just as I want them and let my heirs worry about value. I am now 77 and intend to live to 110. I will enjoy my cars as I see fit until then. Maybe even get buried in one of them ... Hee hee!

Dan Reitz

In a message dated 1/16/2015 1:40:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

I forgot to mention this in my post...

The club has people's choice voting and awards at every meet. Concours judging is only done at the fall meets and has an entry process and fee. The club uses a 1,000 point scale for concours judging.

There's no study on this, but I believe most point deductions are taken in the Engine Compartment, Chassis and Interior sections. That's where the details really add up and make a difference. Thoughts about concours judging often turn to competition. I think a better focus is on judging as an educational process. The judges and model year consultants are happy to help along the way.

I can't remember how the club used to handle judging forms in the past. Maybe sample forms were available. I'll ask around and see if we can post something on the website.

Jim Krausmann

From: "John Holst jholst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:08:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Judging

If you do a Google search for Concours Judging criteria you will find a great selection of options. Some use a 400 point scale and down to a 100 point scale. Point deduction for the original/correct paint displayed varied for each scale used. Is there a standard judging criteria list available? This could be available for member digestion on the Club site. Something to consider. Most owners will seldom or never get involved in a true judging event, but knowing the rules up front would be a help in preparing or maintaining your car for your own use and for the possibility of a future sale.
John Holst...

At 05:13 AM 1/16/2015, you wrote:

The standard concours deduction is 100 points for a non authentic color. That's described as non original to the car and was never a Chrysler factory color that year.
The standard deduction for a non original color is 50 points. That's a color that was not original to the car but was a Chrysler factory color that year.

Jim Krausmann

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