Re: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals

Hi Dave,

It was just a grounding issue. You'll recall looking at it with me last July at the Mopar Happening in Belvidere. When we pulled the socket and just touched it against the body, the light lit. We couldn't remove the lens because of how the 2 screws are flattened, so went back to squeezing my hand under the trunk lock brace and sanding the body, along with continual soaking with WD40. By the time Jim Krausmann, John Begian, you and Mark Obermann with me, were cruising east to Macungie together in our 300s, the light was working again. Just dumb luck with a little help. Appreciate your trying to fix it with me!

Noel

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On Feb 5, 2016, at 5:12 PM, David Schwandt <finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Ahemm..
Noel…..
And just what was that issue with your license plate light??
Inquiring minds want to know!!

Dave Schwandt

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis cpaviper@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 5:32 PM
To: Bruce Paul
Cc: Albert Vannice; kmaniak@xxxxxxx; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals

Al,
You may want to check your rear license plate light also. Had an issue with mine this past summer that I finally resolved.
Noel Hastalis
F Coupe

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 3:51 PM, Bruce Paul b_paul_ncp@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Please note that the bulb sockets need to be grounded, which is supposed to happen when the light assemblies are screwed/bolted to the body. The new paint could be preventing grounding. There are no separate ground wires to each bulb or light assembly.

Bruce Paul
Cherry Hill, NJ

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On Feb 3, 2016, at 10:55 AM, "Albert Vannice mavche@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]" <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Chris,
      I went out to the body shop myself this morning to check the F.  I found that the turn signal lever DOES lock in either direction, but there are no front or rear turn signal lights working. The back-up lights also do not work and the right rear brake light is not working. I left a new stop light switch off and the fuse is also going to be checked. Then the flasher will be checked, if necessary. I am guessing that the wiring disconnection when the rear bumper and tail light assemblies were removed before the painting and the reconnection may be playing a role. I appreciate your comments and any other feedback would be welcome.
Al
From: kmaniak@xxxxxxx [kmaniak@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 4:59 PM
To: Albert Vannice; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals
Well....no lock and no light means...no power....somewhere.

I always say, start with the simple and work towards the complex.

Make sure the battery is fully charged and connected
Make sure the ignition key is in the ON position
Make sure the fuse for the circuit is good and power is coming into the fuse box
Verify flasher integrity by pulling the flasher, testing for hot voltage, and installing a jumper to see if this will make the bulbs light up steady.

This is where you start. I know that some of these things should be obvious, but you would be surprised how many times I have seen people lose sight of the "forest" because there were "trees" in the way, if you get my drift. I would also question the integrity of the mechanic. I don't know your mechanic from Adam so this isn't a personal attack, but I have seen some mechanics who either don't have a clue about certain things, especially with cars of this vintage, or unscrupulously create other problems to pad their bank account. The latter is the reason I try to work on my own car as much as I can myself.

Anyway, my "two cents" for what it's worth.

Chris the K MANIAC

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From: Albert Vannice <MAVCHE@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: kmaniak <kmaniak@xxxxxxx>; Chrysler300 <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2016 7:36 am
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals
Chris,
    I myself didn't know the details, but with your classification, my mechanic says the third possibility from the top is the right description, and he knows where it is. Any input will be welcome.
Al
From: kmaniak@xxxxxxx [kmaniak@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:07 AM
To: Albert Vannice; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals
With all due respect, I think you need to further define what you mean by "not working". I can envision several failure modes. For example:

The turn signal lever locks in both positions, but the nothing lights up
The turn signal lever locks in both positions, but the lights stay on steady (no blinking)
The turn signal lever does not lock in either direction (you have to hold the lever) and nothing lights up
The turn signal lever does not lock in either direction (you have to hold the lever) and the lights stay on steady (no blinking)
The turn signal lever does not lock in either direction, and the lights blink

So please, pick one of the above or tell us what your car is doing in detail.

One more thing to remember. Since the turn signal lever is mounted under the transmission buttons and NOT on the steering column, your mechanics might not know just where the turn signal switch is or how it functions. Just sayin'....

Chris the K MANIAC

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From: Albert Vannice mavche@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2016 6:34 am
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300 F turn signals

Hello Group,
     The rehabilitation of my 300 F is nearly complete; however, I spoke with the repair shop this morning to learn that the turn signals have stopped working. I can't see how the roof, hood and fender damage could affect them. I was told that the repair manual offers little advice regarding a solution to this problem, so I'm asking Club members for suggestions. They were working when I left the car off several months ago. Thanks in advance for your help.

Al Vannice