Look up hot heads on internet " early hemi parts" you will see core plugs under Chrysler parts . But not sure they will fit B blocks off top of head . Maybe someone on site knows if two blocks take same size disc? HH very helpful, ask for help? High quality piece but get longer SS screws .
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> On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:13 AM, Ronald Kurtz <mark6268@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks, John, for your input.
>
> I installed the plugs several years ago. They are holding up. My '64 Newport was a project car, to be sure my 300E would get the best equipment and parts. I am not going for points. But, I am a believer in doing what is right in my restorations. Can you send me a source where I can get the correct plugs?
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> Best,
> Ron Kurtz
> E #292
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> On Sat, 10/21/17, John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 413 Welch plugs
> To: "Ronald Kurtz" <mark6268@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ray Jones" <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Saturday, October 21, 2017, 8:17 AM
>
> I think to do this right you have
> to machine the block to remove the lip the flat stock discs
> sit on . Just putting GM style cups in the holes does not
> work correctly . They need to go in flush all the way .
> Maybe you did this machining? If not they will not grab as
> designed .precision size of hole too ?
> I am
> a big believer in the hot heads aluminum plugs held with a
> stainless steel bolt and toggle bolt like strap . This
> cannot come out . The bolts from hot heads are slightly too
> short aggravating putting them in , unbelievably so , inside
> parts can drop into water jacket . You are done for . I had
> a bare block got the toggle bar out of top of block. Get 1/4
> longer bolts . Made for 392 , may be same size as B , and a
> bolt in . The o ring sits on the block lip. Which must be
> clean . lost a disc one on first trip on 392 ,huge hassle
> you get 2 minutes to boiling in head. very tricky to get
> in right with stock , but stock works. A skill issue . No
> one does this in 2017, they do not have the experience . But
> stock rusts too . On heads maybe cups are a good answer ?
> Machining them anyway at a rebuild.
> Bottom
> line hot heads bolt in plugs end this problem on block.
> And can be done without machining . Need to check if 413?and
> 392 same size . A good machinist can make this too . John G
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 5:41 AM, Ronald Kurtz
> mark6268@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>> Copper cup
> plugs are available from Summit Racing . I installed them on
> my '64 361.
>>
>>
> Best,
>> Rom Kurtz
>> E
> #292
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>> On Fri, 10/20/17, Ray Jones 1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx
> [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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>> Subject:
> Re: [Chrysler300] 413 Welch plugs
>> To:
> "Richard Vitek" <rpvitek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Intl 300" <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> "Ray Jones" <1970hurst@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Friday, October 20, 2017, 11:27
> PM
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>> Not sure why you want
>> to use disc rather than cup plugs. Cup
> plugs are more
>> foolproof, and are
> easier to set and keep in place.
>> Back
> in the day when I replaced
>> any of mine,
> I used Marine Brass cup plugs.413 is a very popular
>> engine, so they should be readily
> available, in steal or
>> Brass.
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>> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017
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>> not cup
> type,) for an early 413? Counterman at NAPA and some
>> other stores unable to help.
>> Thanks. By the way, are
>> these sized nominally the same as the cup
> type for the same
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