Re: clutch type

[george smith <bt6t4@xxxxxxxxx>]

>From past yrs. experience,the Z bar and nylon bushings are the weak link in Mopar clutches.
George


--- On Fri, 2/5/10, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: clutch type
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 3:07 PM
> 
> I used 9" slicks at 16 psi in a 3800# car.  Had 4.10
> gears.  Engine was 375 HP and about 450 ft# torque at the
> rear wheels (chassis dyno) so I think it had the power to
> blow off a 9" slick.  Would hit 107-110 mph at the end of
> the run and 12.80s.  Sixty foot at 1.8s.
> 
> Never figured out what was wrong.  I THINK the suspension
> worked too good and slammed the tires into the pavement. 
> With everything locked up, the weakest point broke.  Fixed
> all that then I got a bog off the line when it pulled the
> engine down.
> 
>   Akron Don
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 5:37:58 PM
> Subject: Re: clutch type
> 
> 
> Don and Steve-- Now you gave me another reason to not be
> able to go to sleep! :-) What kind of hores are you making
> to have those kinds of breakage problems? And how big the
> slicks or ties? I doubt I would try the sidestep
> method...............................MO
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 4:00 PM
> Subject: RE: clutch type
> 
> 
> > 
> > I don't want to dampen Merwin's enthusiasm, 4 speeds
> are a blast.  If I were
> > going to use one in a driver, I'd make sure the tires
> act as a "fuse" and
> > take the load off the drivetrain.  If you sidestep
> the clutch, let it spin a
> > little.
> > 
> > Big difference in torque between a 426 wedge and a
> 289.
> > 
> > Pushbutton Steve :P
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donald Gallimore [mailto:dongallimore@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 3:54 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: clutch type
> > 
> > 
> > I was thinking about that breakage when I wrote the
> response.  Probably
> > spent $5,000 on fixing destroyed drivetrain stuff. 
> Then I got a good Dana
> > 60 and I was still having starting line launch
> issues.  Now I run a TF and
> > go end to end every pass down the track.
> > 
> > I used a 10 1/2 inch unit.
> > 
> >  Don
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 2:31:19 PM
> > Subject: RE: clutch type
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah, and then he broke every part on the car except
> the glove box door. :P
> > 
> > 4 speeds = fun to cruise but hard on parts.
> > 
> > AFAIK there are two varieties of clutch (Don will know
> more about this), the
> > 10 1/2" and the 11".  Seems like the 10 1/2" had an
> aluminum bellhousing
> > while the 11 was iron?  As long as you keep
> everything matched I think
> > you're good.  IIRC (kids are rubbing off on me) not
> all crankshafts are
> > machined for throw-out bearings - Don, can you
> verify?
> > 
> > SC
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Donald Gallimore [mailto:dongallimore@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:54 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: clutch type
> > 
> > 
> > I used the Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch in my 440
> powered '65 Belvedere.
> > Held up very well and leg effort was not bad at all.
> > 
> >  Akron Don
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Merwin Wrisley <vulcan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Fri, February 5, 2010 1:40:27 PM
> > Subject: clutch type
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >    Having never changed a clutch in a Mopar (plenty
> of experience in mid
> > 60's Mustangs, though). Is there a choice in pressure
> plates, either Beck,
> > Long, G.M.style, and what would you recommend for my
> '65 383, (soon to be a
> > wedge 426) Coronet ? Also, will I need a different
> > flywheel for the '26? I'm wondering about a balance
> issue.  Merwin
> > 
> > 
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> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
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