RE: Racer Brown

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

Steven
The whole stroker kit came from 440 Source and I am very impressed with it.
All of the parts are made in USA.
I had heard that their parts came from Korea and China but their web site said that their stroker kits were made in the USA so I took a chance and was blown away with the quality.
I had the block decked and was worried about valve clearance so when I put the clay in the valve reliefs and found that much clearance I was surprised.
I think that the problem is too much lift for the valve springs so I am going to get a solid cam and lifters from Racer Brown.
Don Dulmage swears by Racer Brown and I think thats the way I'm going.
I probably should have bought bee hive springs for the roller cam
Live and learn.
Between building this motor and putting 6 speed gears in my Indian Chief,
I have been busy as a bee, at least until I ran into the trouble with push rods and the shifter assembly being the wrong one for the 6 speed gear set.
Now I'm sitting at my computer twiddling my thumbs and waiting on parts.
The wife just came up with a honey do list so my idle ways will stop...lol

Later
Bill

--- On Fri, 4/9/10, Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Racer Brown
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:04 PM
> 
> Bill,
>     It sounds like you must have massive
> valve reliefs in the pistons,
> .190" is a bunch.
> 
>     With .475" of lobe lift the valve lift
> with a standard 1.5 ratio
> rocker would be roughly .712", which will bind most all
> springs except those
> made specifically for the higher-lift cams.  Most
> springs set up around
> 1.900" installed height IIRC, and the last ones I used
> showed bind at
> 1.200".  If the installed height is short, obviously
> you have less room to
> play with.
> 
>     Curious that you're only seeing it one
> one side.  What were the
> installed heights on the springs - is it possible that the
> driver's side
> head has a taller installed height?  It makes me think
> that there may be
> something else at play here, but if coil bind is definately
> occuring, it's
> pretty cut and dried.
> 
> SC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Harrison [mailto:bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:09 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Racer Brown
> 
> Steven
> I check piston to valve clearances and have 190 thousandths
> so that is no
> problem.
> I have 2.14 intakes and 1.81 exhaust valves with dual
> springs.
> The Spring coils are bottoming out so I am suspecting too
> much lift on the
> cam lobes.
> I checked the lobes at their highest point and am getting a
> reading of .470
> to .475 lift. 
> I have rotated the crank by hand and watched as the lifter
> comes towards the
> top of the lobe.....pop, there goes the push rod. I am now
> using the push
> rods out of my old poly 318 so I don't bend any more of my
> crower push rods.
> Takes most of the adjuster screw but they still work.
> It is happening on the 2 - 4- 6 and 8 banks not the 1 - 3 -
> 5 and 7 banks.
> That is what is making this such a head scratcher.
> Later
> Bill
> 
> --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: Racer Brown
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:49 AM
> > 
> > Bill,
> >     A couple if questions:  Did you
> > check piston to valve clearance?  Do
> > you have oversize valves in the heads?  What ratio
> rockers are you 
> > using?
> > Are the springs binding (opening to the point that the
> coils are all 
> > touching and no more movement is available?
> > 
> > SC
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Harrison [mailto:bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 11:25 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Racer Brown
> > 
> > A little back ground on this subject:::
> > I bought a Cam Dynamics Roller Cam from an ebayer but
> when I installed 
> > it along with the roller lifters and rockers, as I was
> rotating the 
> > crank to cold set the lifter lash, it started bending
> push rods.
> > Nothing is binding  in the valve train.
> > I have Crower push rods and have bent 2, along with 6
> small block push 
> > rods.
> > The lobes on the cam are just too high and are over
> compressing the 
> > springs and causing the push rods to bend.
> > The guy swears he had it in a 440 for less than a
> summer with no 
> > problems.
> > If any body has a theory, please let me know.
> > Later
> > Bill
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Gary H. <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Gary H. <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Racer Brown
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 7:57 PM
> > > 
> > > It think it is listed on the 62-65 site's vendor
> page
> > in the "Engine" 
> > > section.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Gary H.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >  
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Does someone have the phone number for Racer
> > Brown
> > > Co.?
> > > >I remember someone posting it a while back
> but I
> > did
> > > not save it.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks
> > > >Bill Harrison
> > > >65 Coronet 2 dr post
> > > 
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