Re: external balance

[Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx>]

You do not have to bore the crank for the pilot bushing.There is a bearing that can be put in the end of the crank to support the nose of the 4 speed input shaft.  It presses into the depression that the nose of the converter fits into.   I remember getting it from NAPA but I'd bet Brewers has it.

Probably makes more sense for those who are swapping from an auto to a 4 speed and not tearing down the engine.

Akron Don Gallimore



----- Original Message ----
> From: MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 2:26:13 AM
> Subject: Re: external balance
> 
> 
I bought that 440 engine today . It is the cast crank without the crank 
> flange machined for pilot bearing.  I will be using a 4 speed tranny, So I 
> would have to machine for a pilot bearing and then find a flywheel for an 
> external balance crank.  I will eventually need a good standard flywheel 
> for my 413 engine, and so would already have that.  I already have the 
> harmonic balancer for a internal balance engine. . Ny thought is to change the 
> crank to a internal balance one --Question-- if I do change cranks and use a 
> regular flywheel and harmonic balancer, is there anything eles that needs to be 
> done?  Will the balance be within factory tolerences? Thanks for any 
> input.............................MO

{Steve 
> Mick}
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.html

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> Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" <> href="mailto:chargr1969@xxxxxxxxx";>chargr1969@xxxxxxxxx>
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there 
> was cast and forged cranks made.







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> 6/12/10, doug daniel <> href="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx> 
> wrote:

> From: doug daniel <> ymailto="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx"; 
> href="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Subject: Re: external balance
> To: > ymailto="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx"; 
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> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 12:35 PM
> what else did they make 
> cranks
> outa in 78 ? or earlier
> 
> --- On Sat, 6/12/10, 
> Imperial <> href="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Imperial <> ymailto="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
> href="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> > Subject: Re: external balance
> > To: > ymailto="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx"; 
> href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 10:48 AM
> >
> >
> 
> > I agree....nothing wrong with the cast crank 440s.
> > And there's 
> a flywheel on Ebay right now:
> > 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-400-440-143-Tooth-Externally-Balanced-Flywheel-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2307c65fb2QQitemZ150454296498QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
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> >
> > Mike Trettin
> > 1962 Chrysler Newport wagon
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Doug Jacobsma
> > 
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:45 PM
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> 
> >
> > Subject: RE: external balance
> >
> 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A 78 is 
> going to have a cast crank most likely.
> Don't
> > know how hard 
> it will be to find a flywheel. If a
> > pickup one will work, you 
> should be able to find
> one.
> > A cast crank in anything but an 
> egad killer engine
> wouldn't
> > bother me any. Get it 
> !!!
> >
> > Jake
> > '63 Sport Fury 'vert
> 
> >
> >
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> > > From: > href="mailto:micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > Subject: external balance
> > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:54:46 
> -0500
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a chance to 
> buy a running 440 out of a 78
> > Chrysler New Yorker. I
> > 
> > haven't looked at it yet. How likely is it that
> it is
> > 
> a external balance
> > > cast iron crank.? If it is external 
> balance, how
> hard
> > is it to find an
> > > 
> external balanc 10- 1/2 " flywheel ( used) for
> manual
> > 
> tranny? Thanks for
> > > any input.........MO
> > 
> >
> > > {Steve Mick}
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