Re: external balance

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

If I was going to tear the motor down and re-build it, I would find a forged crank.
Much stronger for building a performance motor down the road.

Later
Bill Harrison
65 Coronet 2 dr post

--- On Sun, 6/13/10, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: external balance
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:59 AM
> You do not have to bore the crank for
> the pilot bushing.There is a bearing that can be put in the
> end of the crank to support the nose of the 4 speed input
> shaft.  It presses into the depression that the nose of
> the converter fits into.   I remember getting it from NAPA
> but I'd bet Brewers has it.
> 
> Probably makes more sense for those who are swapping from
> an auto to a 4 speed and not tearing down the engine.
> 
> Akron Don Gallimore
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: MO ( Steve Mick) <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Sun, June 13, 2010 2:26:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: external balance
> > 
> > 
> I bought that 440 engine today . It is the cast crank
> without the crank 
> > flange machined for pilot bearing.  I will be using a
> 4 speed tranny, So I 
> > would have to machine for a pilot bearing and then
> find a flywheel for an 
> > external balance crank.  I will eventually need a
> good standard flywheel 
> > for my 413 engine, and so would already have that.  I
> already have the 
> > harmonic balancer for a internal balance engine. . Ny
> thought is to change the 
> > crank to a internal balance one --Question-- if I do
> change cranks and use a 
> > regular flywheel and harmonic balancer, is there
> anything eles that needs to be 
> > done?  Will the balance be within factory tolerences?
> Thanks for any 
> > input.............................MO
> 
> {Steve 
> > Mick}
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mick64.html
> 
> ----- 
> > Original Message ----- From: "Jeff" <>
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> Sent: 
> > Sunday, June 13, 2010 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: external balance
> 
> 
> there 
> > was cast and forged cranks made.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 
> > 6/12/10, doug daniel <> href="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>
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> > wrote:
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> > From: doug daniel <> ymailto="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";
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> > href="mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx";>dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > Subject: Re: external balance
> > To: > ymailto="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";
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> > href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 12:35 PM
> > what else did they make 
> > cranks
> > outa in 78 ? or earlier
> > 
> > --- On Sat, 6/12/10, 
> > Imperial <> href="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > wrote:
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> > > From: Imperial <> ymailto="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
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> > href="mailto:imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>imperial@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > > Subject: Re: external balance
> > > To: > ymailto="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";
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> > href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > > Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 10:48 AM
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > > I agree....nothing wrong with the cast crank
> 440s.
> > > And there's 
> > a flywheel on Ebay right now:
> > > 
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mopar-400-440-143-Tooth-Externally-Balanced-Flywheel-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2307c65fb2QQitemZ150454296498QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
> > 
> > >
> > > Mike Trettin
> > > 1962 Chrysler Newport wagon
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Doug Jacobsma
> > > 
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:45 PM
> > > To: > ymailto="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";
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> > href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > >
> > > Subject: RE: external balance
> > >
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A 78 is 
> > going to have a cast crank most likely.
> > Don't
> > > know how hard 
> > it will be to find a flywheel. If a
> > > pickup one will work, you 
> > should be able to find
> > one.
> > > A cast crank in anything but an 
> > egad killer engine
> > wouldn't
> > > bother me any. Get it 
> > !!!
> > >
> > > Jake
> > > '63 Sport Fury 'vert
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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> > > > To: > href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
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> > > > From: > href="mailto:micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > 
> > > Subject: external balance
> > > > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 22:54:46 
> > -0500
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a chance to 
> > buy a running 440 out of a 78
> > > Chrysler New Yorker. I
> > > 
> > > haven't looked at it yet. How likely is it that
> > it is
> > > 
> > a external balance
> > > > cast iron crank.? If it is external 
> > balance, how
> > hard
> > > is it to find an
> > > > 
> > external balanc 10- 1/2 " flywheel ( used) for
> > manual
> > > 
> > tranny? Thanks for
> > > > any input.........MO
> > > 
> > >
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