========================================================== Extra! Extra! Read all about it! Get the latest weather, sports, and lifestyle news you can't afford to miss, all at a price you can afford to pay! Click now! caaa9eYb7yoMza/TopOffers ========================================================== Jon, I have posted this before, but here goes one more time. It can only be one of two things. First air flow, second water flow. If your car is only running 215 degrees, that is not hot, just starting to make horse power at that temp. However I understand why you don't want to run it on the street at that temp. <;-) Take it our to a road where you can run a constant speed for about a mile or so, and be able to pull over. First get it up to temp, drive at about 45MPH - depending on your rear end gear - you want to pick a speed that you can shift down a gear and maintain that speed - if it heats up while driving at a constant speed in high gear, shift down one gear, keep the same speed, and see if the temp goes up or down. If it goes up then you have a water flow problem, if it goes down, then you have an air flow problem. We learned this method back in the 60's. Earl hey group,almost erady to post completed photos of the 65 to the works in progress page. need some advice,help, opinions!! cant get more than 6-8 miles in the ride without it getting real hot. 210-215 and this is on a 65 degree day. heres the specs. 662 hp stroked motor,belt driven milidon hi volume water pump,double pass two row aluminum rad,three electric fans with shroud,proper mix of 50/50 coolant,even some of that water wetter. the timing is locked in at 36 degrees. whats going on here?? anybody out there got a clue? tryed pulling the thermostat out completley and still got hot,just took alittle longer. what gives? btw this thing hauls ass big time... jon lepage 1969 super bee,440,4spd 1965 ply sat,505 stroker,b1 heads,662hp,works in progress ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. b7yoMz.