Re: long rams

[wally breer <wbreer@xxxxxxx>]

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Hi Neal!
             The Long Rams were used from 1960 to '63 in the Chrysler 300's
mostly;
in '60 they were available in the Full size Dodges Desoto's and Plymouths'
and were designated "Sonoramic induction"  There are two types of these
manifolds and they both look the same visually,the common one is the Long
ram which uses 30" ram tubes ,that is the  manifold runners are divided for
a full 30 inches almost right up to the carb plenum .These are the "mid
range" manifolds and start working at about 2600 RPM and stop working at
about 4500 RPM. Then there are the "short ram" (really rare and were found
on the 410 horse solid lifter 413's) which used 13" manifold runners ,you
can tell them apart by looking at the top of the manifold and simply looking
at how far the "valley"  travels up the manifold runner . These guys work as
good as the "Cross Ram" on the Max Wedges and start to work at about 4000
RPM and stop working at about 6500 RPM. Keep in mind that these are
approximate RPM's I may have the numbers off a bit but you get the idea.
With the proper camming ,timing and carb settings the Long Rams produce a
tremendous amount of low end torque, if you are lucky enough to find the
short ram you can get virtually the same performance as a Max Wedge(nudge
nudge wink wink say no more).
The visual impact of these manifolds is tremendous , I'm using a set of them
on my '63
but keep in mind some modifications of the passenger side fenderwell is
required to get them to fit on a "B" body. Braces also have to be made to
support the manifolds as you can't use the original "C" body cast exhaust
manifolds (with the hot air inlet).

Wally
63 Dodge etc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert neal zimmerman" <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:50 AM
Subject: long rams




     Well i just looked at a deal last nite to make you cry, I felt like
     shaking some sense in to the guy BUT!!!- it would be my gain.
     Anyway in addition to being the most solid old car (63 Polara 500-
     2 dr hdtp.)I have ever seen ( garage baby, 55,000 original miles
     and 100% all there ) It comes with a never run rebuilt 1963 413 and
     brand new pushbutton 727, and if thats not enough for the price,
     the 413 comes with a long ram setup and the carbs.
     Anyhoo, tell me about these long rams:
     What was the last year they were issued -1960???61???62???
     I know they were out of the scene by 63 but the guy really wanted
     to run them.So he got them.
      Most importantly how do they run and where do they make power?
,     The story on the car itself was the original owner ( its only on
its second owner)had built a super duper motor for it, which got stolen
from his garage, and he was so disgusted he could never stand to look at
the car again, so it stood on jack stands in the garage for the next
twenty years
         BTW , if I pass on this car, I will pass the word on to you
         guys as this is an exceptional deal, but until then its my
         secret.
     Neal Zimmerman, Eugene Oregon

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