[AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Save up to 67% on Omaha Steaks + Get 6 FREE Burgers and a FREE Cutlery Set + Cutting Board! caacvgpb7yoMza/OmahaSteaks ------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, Ford, Mercury and Licnoln-Zephyr were the last in North America in 1939 to adopt hydraulic brakes. Their British subsidiary did not adopt hydraulic brakes across the board until the 1950's Bill Vancouver, BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "wally breer" <wbreer@xxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:43 AM Subject: Re: CHEV?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hydraulic brakes .......more Hi Guys Further to the brake question, The system approved for the Chalmers was developed by Malcolm Lockheed and used Rawhide cups in the original design among with a number of other shortcomings. Chrysler did the final development on this system with the direct involvement of Chrysler engineer Carl Breer. To make a long story short , the brake fluid type and the rubber cup design for the wheel cylinders that we are so famliar with were developed out of Carl's work with ,Lockheed , Parke Davis Chemical company and the Manhattan Rubber company...there was more development work but by the time the system was finished Chryslers patent coverage was so great that not much of the original Lockheed system remained. An agreement was reached with Lockheed for a royalty free license in exchange for all of Chryslers patents. The brake fluid developed through Carls' work was eventually sold as "Lockheed brake fluid ". This development work and Chrysler's generosity with the patents helped break down the barriers to universal adoption of Hydraulic brakes throughout the Automotive industry and placed both Lockheed and Chrysler in the forefront with regards to automotive safety through the use of dependable hydraulic brakes. I do believe that the Ford motor Company was the last holdout when it came to Hydraulic brake useage with the 1939 or '40 model year still using mechanical brakes,but I'm not sure.....anyone know for sure??? Regards Wally Breer 63 Dodge etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SherwoodK@xxxxxxx> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:49 AM Subject: Re: CHEV?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hydraulic brakes OK Guys: The hydraulic brakes were first used on the very low production Duesenberg in 1922 or thereabouts, then Chalmers in 1923 (a part of Maxwell) and then the first mass production car, the 1924 Chrysler. The only non-hydraulic brake Chrysler cars were some of the 4-cylinder cars based off the Maxwell which Chrysler called Models 50, 52 and 58 (not in year order) in 1926, 27 and 28. Chrysler has always been considered to be the first hydraulic brake manufacturer. Sherwood Kahlenberg [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Amazing Diet Patch The fastest - Easiest way to lose weight! Try it now FREE! caacvgtb7yoMzf/MyDietPatches ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. b7yoMz.