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Hi
         Thanks Bill , I figured it was around that time ...I don't have a
lot of reference material when it comes to Fords.

Wally
 63 Dodge etc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: CHEV?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hydraulic brakes .......more


Yes, Ford, Mercury and Licnoln-Zephyr were the last in North America in 1939
to adopt hydraulic brakes.  Their British subsidiary did not adopt hydraulic
brakes across the board until the 1950's

Bill
Vancouver, BC


----- Original Message -----
From: "wally breer" <wbreer@xxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: CHEV?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hydraulic brakes .......more




Hi Guys
              Further to the brake question, The system approved for the
Chalmers  was developed by Malcolm Lockheed and used Rawhide cups in the
original design among with a number of other shortcomings. Chrysler did the
final development on this system with the direct involvement of Chrysler
engineer Carl Breer. To make a long story short , the brake fluid type and
the rubber cup design for the wheel cylinders  that we are so famliar with
were developed  out of Carl's work with ,Lockheed ,  Parke Davis Chemical
company and the Manhattan Rubber company...there was more development work
but by the time the system was finished Chryslers patent coverage  was so
great that  not much of the original Lockheed system remained. An agreement
was reached with Lockheed for a royalty free license in exchange for all of
Chryslers patents. The brake fluid developed through Carls' work was
eventually sold as "Lockheed brake fluid ". This development work and
Chrysler's generosity with the patents helped break down the barriers to
universal adoption of Hydraulic brakes throughout the Automotive industry
and placed both Lockheed and Chrysler in the forefront with regards to
automotive safety through the use of dependable hydraulic brakes.
I do believe that  the Ford motor Company was the last holdout when it came
to Hydraulic brake useage with the 1939 or '40  model year still using
mechanical brakes,but I'm not sure.....anyone know for sure???

 Regards
  Wally Breer
  63 Dodge etc.

----- Original Message -----
From: <SherwoodK@xxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: CHEV?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hydraulic brakes



OK Guys:

The hydraulic brakes were first used on the very low production Duesenberg
in
1922 or thereabouts, then Chalmers in 1923 (a part of Maxwell) and then the
first mass production car, the 1924 Chrysler. The only non-hydraulic brake
Chrysler cars were some of the 4-cylinder cars based off the Maxwell which
Chrysler called Models 50, 52 and 58 (not in year order) in 1926, 27 and 28.

Chrysler has always been considered to be the first hydraulic brake
manufacturer.

Sherwood Kahlenberg

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