Re: pilot bushing dos and donts

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 8:01 AM neal zimmerman <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On the other hand I could just have one of my 440s rebuilt locally and I would then know everything about my motor. But the post covid
waiting list is long to get it done.
Plus I recently lost my 20+ year machinist guy to a very aggressive cancer, so I am now at a loss as to who/how to get a motor rebuilt here in town..
Starting over at square one as to who can be trusted.
Neal ZImmerman

On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 7:54 AM neal zimmerman <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
OK sounds like the NAPA part could help out. I am eyeballing a brand new rebuilt 440 on facebook Marketplace, but it's about 200 miles away, so I can't get my eyeballs on back of crank to see., and the guy selling it seems a bit clueless as to what I am talking about when I asked him what the status of the crank is.
I mean it very well could be pilot bushing ready, but I just don't know, and I don't want to drive 200 miles to find out it's a no-go situation.
At least he has the receipts for the work done.
neal Zimmerman

On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:37 PM Bill Parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I'm not sure if all -pre '66 were fully machined, I suspect someone on here will know for sure though. But again, if you are going to rebuild, then sure why not get it bored and reamed. I know how any project can turn into, "well while I'm this far, I just as well do that", I do it myself. If you weren't going to anyway, the late model bearing does work.
Bill & Kathi Parker, South Central Indiana

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On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 7:24 PM John Waskiewicz <jswask@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Question, where all 361, 383 426 cranks pre 1966 engines machined for this pilot bushing, for either auto or manual trans? As if I feel like switching to 4 speed the machining is there, I guess if I do put the 4 speed in I will rebuild the 361 anyway, and machine for it. John Wask.....

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From: 'Stan Kafouse' via The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Date: 9/8/22 6:34 PM (GMT-05:00)

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Subject: Re: pilot bushing dos and donts

This is a very simple fix the crank is either drilled AND reamed for a pilot bushing or it just drilled. NAPA sells a pilot bushing for this drilled BUT NOT REAMED episode. 610-xxxx is the part number, I am going from memory as I kept those in my tool box years and years ago. This bushing has a smaller O.D. allowing it the press into a non reamed crankshaft.

On Thursday, September 8, 2022, 12:46:32 AM EDT, Bill Parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I may or may not have already sent a reply albeit leaving out the item number I was going to post. But here goes again. As already described you do have to separate the engine and trans to find out. If your 440 came new with an automatic trans it will not have a full pilot hole. The quick and inexpensive fix, again as already described, is a pilot bearing that fits in the crank recess. See eBay item 295180519557 for one of these and there are other listings. This item started out as original Mopar but as said, there are repros now too. You do have to cut off some of the trans input shaft tip with a cutoff wheel and chamfer it a fit for ease of assembly, or technically you could go to the trouble of taking the crank to a machine shop to be bored and reamed for the original bushing, particularly if you are going to disassemble the engine anyway.

Rick Ehrenberg did a Mopar Action article on this but I cannot recall how much has to be cut off. I did use this method years ago on a four speed changeover. I even have a Mopar special driver tool somewhere that seats the bearing in the recess nice and flush but it can be done with a punch.

On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 7:52 PM neal zimmerman <neal.zimmerman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

how can one tell if a 440 crank is machined for a pilot bushing ? And if it is not, would it require disassembling the engine to do so?
neal zimmerman

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