[AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Show your pride with a free* USA T-shirt. Click here to confirm your address. caac8uda/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- John, I have seen C body pans without the cut out, but most of the C body pans I find have it. I am talking about the steering cut out. It looks just like a 187, except a larger sump. I would say maybe 1.5' to 2" from front to back. I am at work so I am going by memory. By the way - I know this in not correct, but I put Imperial pans in the C body class in my mind. Most of the 440's I have gotten for cores come from C bodys. I will take a picture this weekend if you like with a 187 and a C body side by side and sent it to you. Earl -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:hogrider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:50 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Another oil pan question and yet another [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- 2-Day Tax Refund Loans TaxBrain Online Tax Service Get Started Now! caac8vhbV1hOja/TaxBrain ------------------------------------------------------------------- Earl, If I read your email corectly, are you saying that an early "C" body pan as well as a 187 pan will fit a '65 "B" body? The "C" body pan that I have has no cutouts, and looks very much like a "B" body pan except that it is a bit deeper behind the sump. I'm not sure if that will make a difference or not, especially when turning. John -----Original Message----- From: Earl Helm <earlh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Feb 10, 2005 9:41 AM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Another oil pan question and yet another [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Get a FREE* MP3 Player - yours to keep! Click Here Now! caac8uxbN9Js2a/MP3 Player Giveaway ------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe, I don't get this 187 pan thing. I have one, and when I set it beside a C body pan, which will work fine in my 65 b body, what I find is that the sump is smaller. The cut outs are about the same, but I don't like the smaller sump. I was luck and did not pay anything for the 187, but I sure would not pay anymore for one of those than I would a C body pan. To answer you question - Yes there are a bunch of people that just have to have a 187. I see them go on EBay for more than a hunski all the time. All the 187's I have seen have come from big block B bodies. I never found one in a C body. I always use two C body pans, weld them together - the sump part, put a couple of baffles in, and buy a longer pick-up. Not hard to do. You just need a old block or welding table to bolt your pan to while welding the extra sump on. Simple - low Cost - Works. Earl Are these 187 pans worth more than the others? I was told they also fit B motor A bodies and are highly sought after. Thgere is a notch cut in the sump. Seems many are in early C bodies. I have a couple and will be going to a swap meet to sell them. Joe [ [AD removed for archives] ------------------------------------------------------------------- Click here and get your free* stock car racing gift. caac8uabN9Js2f/PermissionData ------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. 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