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- From: ROBERT GILLIS <BIGROBERTA@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 13:46:23 -0400
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hi , i am a chrysler,jeep,dodge parts manager and i have heard a few crate motor tales.
wrong pushrods,broken rockers , bad cams, wrong cams, smoke, and now power. hemi and rb.
ROBERT GILLIS...
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From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:54:59 -0700
Subject: Digest for 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx, issue 2664
-- Topica Digest --
Re: Steering wheel restoration,???
By 62to65mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Re: Crate Hemi engines
By northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx
RE: Crate Hemi engines
By TWFAUST@xxxxxxx
RE: How do you tell one 426 from another?
By baddd65@xxxxxxxxx
RE: Crate Hemi engines
By baddd65@xxxxxxxxx
63 FSM for a 62 FSM
By FltSgt@xxxxxxx
1962 Lic Plates
By FltSgt@xxxxxxx
Re: 63 FSM for a 62 FSM
By threerail@xxxxxxx
RE: 1962 Lic Plates
By lalondno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Of topic help needed for decoding
By jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Re: Of topic help needed for decoding
By wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx
Re: 65 Satellite 426
By wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx
RE: Of topic help needed for decoding
By jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Re: 65 Satellite 426
By gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Re: 65 Satellite 426
By wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx
Re: Crate Hemi engines
By RCoronetfreak@xxxxxxx
ballast resistor question
By northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx
Re: ballast resistor question
By bcrocket@xxxxxxxxx
451 list
By Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx
Off topic info request
By Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:38:10 -0400
From: Bob Inscoe <62to65mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Steering wheel restoration,???
I don't think anyone has mentioned Doug Lepak yet. No personal
experience with his work, but he posts on Moparts and has a good rep.
His web page is http://drive.to/stwheels If you're at work, the page
"meep-meep"s when it opens, turn volme down if needed. :-)
Bob Inscoe
Huntington, WV
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>I bought a restored wheel for my "65 Dart GT from Mike and the wheel
>looks great. The rim looks fantastic, but there is still some evidence
>of light pitting on the chrome center.
>I would do business with Mike again, but as someone mentioned earlier
>about another vendor, "he does good work, but he's not cheap".
>
>Jim Davis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Gary H. [mailto:62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 8:36 PM
>To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: Steering wheel restoration,???
>
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>A guy I met does this for a hobby I seem to recall. He owns a '66 or '65
>
>Barracuda, or did last Oct. when I met him at the Houston Mopar Show &
>Race.
>
>http://www.steeringwheelsbymike.com/ is his address.
>
>Thanks,
>Gary H.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:00:00 -0700
From: "Robert neal zimmerman" <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Crate Hemi engines
thats pretty sad to spend that much and then they still need work,
maybe they can advertise them as "15,000 dollars, needs work"
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 10:06:36 EDT
From: TWFAUST@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Crate Hemi engines
I spend a lot of time on the Moparts.com board. There has been a lot of
discussion about crate Hemis. As stated by someone on this board, the engines
are
not assembled by Chrysler and there have been a lot of problems with the
contractors. The jury is still out on whether the quality control issues have
been
resolved. Disassembly and re-assembly is recommended. A harsh judgment on the
Mopar flagship.
Tom Faust
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:41:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: tom hecht <baddd65@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: How do you tell one 426 from another?
so you are saying a factory orange 426 (1965)
would be at least one step above the street wedge?
tom
65 satellite
--- "David L. Orr" <fe2orr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> First two are max wedges 11to 1, 13 to 1
> next is the hemi and last the street wedge
> street wedge is painted tourqoise and the others
> all orange
> they all have something differant about them when
> they are fully
> assembled.. Dave O
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Douglas Sutherland
> [mailto:pluckedchickens@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:28 PM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: How do you tell one 426 from another?
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> According to Galen Govier's "Production Option Code"
> book, there were 4
> different 426's put in '64 Plymouths.
>
> 426 - 415hp MP
> 426 - 425hp MP (before May1)
> 426 - 425hp H (after May1)
> 426 - 365hp HP
>
> Was one the Hemi and one the Max Wedge? Which ones?
>
> Do these engines look different from one another?
> Paint colors?
>
> Isn't there a book on large block Mopar engines?
>
> Thanks!
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 07:57:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: tom hecht <baddd65@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Crate Hemi engines
sad indeed, from personal experience, i would not
install any engine without a $200 dollar dyno tune.
if nothing else it will show any oil leaks and
controls cam break-in, in which case, it becomes
cheaper than having to pull the motor afterwards. it
is also nice to know how timing and jetting will
affect the performance.
mopar can blame the problem on others, but they are
the ones who are selling them for premium prices,
therefore they are responsible for the end product and
quality.
tom
65 satellite
--- Dave Walters <whdavid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>
>
> Brian Schlump wrote:
> >
> > My friend recently installed a 528 crate Hemi that
> he bought a year and
> > a half ago, before the latest production run. I
> followed him to the
> > show on Sunday, and it appears to be burning a lot
> of oil on both
> > acceleration and deceleration & I could smell the
> oil at 60 mph. Last
> > night Chip Foose (Over Hauling Show)installed a
> crate Hemi in a Road
> > Runner and they showed a parting shot of the car
> driving away, and it
> > was burning a lot of oil as well. My friend's
> Hemi pegs his oil
> > pressure ga. at 100 psi all the time. I'm running
> the Mopar high
> > pressure pump in my Max Wedge with 10W40 and it
> runs 80 psi cold and 64
> > psi hot, so the 100 seems very high to me. Does
> anyone in the group
> > have experience with these crate Hemi engines? If
> so, what is your oil
> > pressure running? Is it possible that the high
> oil usage is from the
> > high oil pressure or is it just because the engine
> components haven't
> > broken in yet?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > '64 Belvedere
> > Woodstock, IL.
> >
> > "The difference between ordinary and extraordinary
> is that little
> > extra."
>
>
> I don't have personal experience,but the consensus
> from various Mopar
> sites is that the engines need to be torn down and
> gone through.They're
> notorious for sloppy machining and assembly.Did he
> install the engine as
> delivered from Mopar? If so,he probably made a
> mistake.
>
> Tim Banning at FHO put one of the 528's on the dyno
> and only came back
> with 520+ HP,not the 610 that's advertised.
>
> Dave Walters
> Denver, Co.
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:06:29 EDT
From: FltSgt@xxxxxxx
Subject: 63 FSM for a 62 FSM
Hola
If you have a 62 Chrysler FSM and no not need it, I have a 63 FSM that I'll
trade for.
Rodger & Gabby
Colo Spgs
'47 De Soto Custom w/Fluid Drive & passenger door mounted swamp cooler
'62 Crown Coupe w/std A/C & Auto-Pilot
'66 Le Baron w/dual A/C & reverbed AM/FM
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:10:03 EDT
From: FltSgt@xxxxxxx
Subject: 1962 Lic Plates
Hola
I am looking for a set of 1962 Colo Lic Plates.
Uncle Rodger & Aunt Gabby
Colo Spgs
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:08:08 -0400
From: "Michael Spinazzola" <threerail@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 63 FSM for a 62 FSM
Hi I have one but I need a 62 Ply service manual...Mike
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If you have a 62 Chrysler FSM and no not need it, I have a 63 FSM that I'll
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:34:23 -0400
From: "Norm Lalonde" <lalondno@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 1962 Lic Plates
Try ebay. In fact there are new ones still in that wrapper
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:36:40 +0000
From: Brian Schlump <jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Of topic help needed for decoding
I'm asking for help from our decoding experts. I recently purchased a
'68 Charger that I've sent to a shop for a full restoration. I have
decoded the fender tag, except I question whether I have 3 of the number
combinations decoded properly. Your help would be appreciated in
decoding the 2nd and 3rd row from the bottom as follows
3rd row up 2 3 7
2nd row up 5 0 8
I'd like to compare your interpretation with my own. Thanks!!!
Brian
'64 Belvedere
Woodstock, IL.
"The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little
extra."
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:29:01 -0700
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Of topic help needed for decoding
3rd row up 2 3 7
2nd row up 5 0 8
The numbers in the third row from the bottom are for various moulding pieces
:
2 = 5 : 535 - Drip rail
3 = 0 : 540 - Belt line
7 = 8 548 - Wheel lip
Bill
Vancouver, BC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Schlump" <jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:36 PM
Subject: Of topic help needed for decoding
I'm asking for help from our decoding experts. I recently purchased a
'68 Charger that I've sent to a shop for a full restoration. I have
decoded the fender tag, except I question whether I have 3 of the number
combinations decoded properly. Your help would be appreciated in
decoding the 2nd and 3rd row from the bottom as follows
3rd row up 2 3 7
2nd row up 5 0 8
I'd like to compare your interpretation with my own. Thanks!!!
Brian
'64 Belvedere
Woodstock, IL.
"The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little
extra."
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:46:18 -0700
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 65 Satellite 426
3 = Electical Items : 9 : 539 : 3-speed/variable windshield wipers
7 = Vehicle Sales & Delivery : 2 : 652 : Sold Car
The "23 above QR, and 132 above UVX:" were apparently internal plant codes.
Which letters are above the "1 683 2" on the third row from the
bottom?
Bill
Vancouver, BC
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From: "Gary F. " <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: 65 Satellite 426
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The top line would be 3 above 9, 7 above 2, 23
above QR, and 132 above UVX.
Thanks, Gary
>
> Your numbers have shifted from the letters above due
> to proportional
> spacing.
>
> For the numbers on the top, " 9 2 23
> 132", if you could just list
> the numbers above them and eliminate the numbers on
> the top row that are not
> used,
>
> As for the next group,
>
> ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
> 80 35 1 683 2
>
> AB = Engine : 80 - 426-cid, 1-4bbl carb, 10.3:1 CR.
> 365 BHP
>
> I suspect D=3 and E=5, so :
> D = Transmission - 3 : 363 : 4-speed manual, floor
> shift
> E = Heater - 5 : 405 : Heater/Defroster
>
> Again, if you could list the numbers "1 683
> 2" with the just the
> letters above them, I could decode them.
>
> SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
> 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
>
> SO NUMBER = Shipping Order Number where :
> 211 - Scheduled build date - February 11, 1965
>
> BDY = Car Line / Series / Body Style :
> R - Plymouth Belvdere
> 4 - Satellite
> 2 - 2-door hardtop
>
> TRM - Interior Trim
> P - Trim Grade - Premium - Bucket Seats
> 4 - Material - Vinyl
> Y - Colour - Gold
>
> PAINT - Paint Code / Scheme
> A - Roof Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> A - Body Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> 1 - Style - Monotone
>
> For the engine number :
>
> "The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then -- 2
> 2 3 -- on bottom. The
> engine has no casting numbers on the side or date
> code, only a 6 on each
> side"
>
> A - 1965 model year
> 426 - 426-cid
> VI - ?? unknown
> 2 - February
> 23 - 23rd
> ---> date of assembly, February 23, 1965
>
> Now, as the engine assembly date is later than the
> car, the engine appears
> not to be original..
>
> The VIN should start with "R45" (R - Plymouth
> Belvedere. 4 - Satellite, 5 -
> 1965 model year) followed by a number for the
> assembly plant. The last six
> didigts for the sequential production number.
>
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Gary F. " <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:12 PM
> Subject: 65 Satellite 426
>
>
>
>
> A friend recently bought a 65 Satellite - 4 speed
> car
> that has a 426 street wedge in it. We need some help
> decoding it.
>
> The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then -- 2
> 2
> 3 -- on bottom. The engine has no casting numbers
> on
> the side or date code, only a 6 on each side. The
> engine also has a half inch oil pickup tube and
> bosses
> on each side of the main cap. like a Hemi.
>
> The fender tag has:
>
> 1234567890
>
> 9 2 23 132
>
> ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
>
> 80 35 1 683 2
>
>
> SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
>
> 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
>
>
> The fender tag also has a large 22 stamped sideways
> across the top. The car also had a trunion joint 4
> speed. I know the auto's were slip joint in 65 but I
> don't know about the 4 speed. The car has manual
> steering and no air.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help, Gary
>
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:10:34 +0000
From: Brian Schlump <jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Of topic help needed for decoding
Thanks Bill. That makes a lot more sense than what I had determined. I
appreciate your help...Brian
Bill Watson wrote:
>
> 3rd row up 2 3 7
> 2nd row up 5 0 8
>
> The numbers in the third row from the bottom are for various moulding
> pieces
> :
>
> 2 = 5 : 535 - Drip rail
>
> 3 = 0 : 540 - Belt line
>
> 7 = 8 548 - Wheel lip
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Schlump" <jsbs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 3:36 PM
> Subject: Of topic help needed for decoding
>
>
>
>
> I'm asking for help from our decoding experts. I recently purchased a
> '68 Charger that I've sent to a shop for a full restoration. I have
> decoded the fender tag, except I question whether I have 3 of the number
> combinations decoded properly. Your help would be appreciated in
> decoding the 2nd and 3rd row from the bottom as follows
>
> 3rd row up 2 3 7
> 2nd row up 5 0 8
>
> I'd like to compare your interpretation with my own. Thanks!!!
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> '64 Belvedere
> Woodstock, IL.
>
> "The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little
> extra."
>
>
'64 Belvedere
Woodstock, IL.
"The difference between ordinary and extraordinary is that little
extra."
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:45:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Futrell <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 65 Satellite 426
The Q is above the 1, STU above 683 and Z above the 2.
Gary
> 3 = Electical Items : 9 : 539 : 3-speed/variable
> windshield wipers
>
> 7 = Vehicle Sales & Delivery : 2 : 652 : Sold Car
>
>
> The "23 above QR, and 132 above UVX:" were
> apparently internal plant codes.
>
>
> Which letters are above the "1 683 2" on the
> third row from the
> bottom?
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>----
>
> The top line would be 3 above 9, 7 above 2, 23
> above QR, and 132 above UVX.
>
>
> Thanks, Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Your numbers have shifted from the letters above
> due
> > to proportional
> > spacing.
> >
> > For the numbers on the top, " 9 2 23
> > 132", if you could just list
> > the numbers above them and eliminate the numbers
> on
> > the top row that are not
> > used,
> >
> > As for the next group,
> >
> > ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
> > 80 35 1 683 2
> >
> > AB = Engine : 80 - 426-cid, 1-4bbl carb, 10.3:1
> CR.
> > 365 BHP
> >
> > I suspect D=3 and E=5, so :
> > D = Transmission - 3 : 363 : 4-speed manual, floor
> > shift
> > E = Heater - 5 : 405 : Heater/Defroster
> >
> > Again, if you could list the numbers "1 683
> > 2" with the just the
> > letters above them, I could decode them.
> >
> > SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
> > 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
> >
> > SO NUMBER = Shipping Order Number where :
> > 211 - Scheduled build date - February 11, 1965
> >
> > BDY = Car Line / Series / Body Style :
> > R - Plymouth Belvdere
> > 4 - Satellite
> > 2 - 2-door hardtop
> >
> > TRM - Interior Trim
> > P - Trim Grade - Premium - Bucket Seats
> > 4 - Material - Vinyl
> > Y - Colour - Gold
> >
> > PAINT - Paint Code / Scheme
> > A - Roof Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> > A - Body Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> > 1 - Style - Monotone
> >
> > For the engine number :
> >
> > "The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then --
> 2
> > 2 3 -- on bottom. The
> > engine has no casting numbers on the side or date
> > code, only a 6 on each
> > side"
> >
> > A - 1965 model year
> > 426 - 426-cid
> > VI - ?? unknown
> > 2 - February
> > 23 - 23rd
> > ---> date of assembly, February 23, 1965
> >
> > Now, as the engine assembly date is later than the
> > car, the engine appears
> > not to be original..
> >
> > The VIN should start with "R45" (R - Plymouth
> > Belvedere. 4 - Satellite, 5 -
> > 1965 model year) followed by a number for the
> > assembly plant. The last six
> > didigts for the sequential production number.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> > Vancouver, BC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Gary F. " <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:12 PM
> > Subject: 65 Satellite 426
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A friend recently bought a 65 Satellite - 4 speed
> > car
> > that has a 426 street wedge in it. We need some
> help
> > decoding it.
> >
> > The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then --
> 2
> > 2
> > 3 -- on bottom. The engine has no casting
> numbers
> > on
> > the side or date code, only a 6 on each side. The
> > engine also has a half inch oil pickup tube and
> > bosses
> > on each side of the main cap. like a Hemi.
> >
> > The fender tag has:
> >
> > 1234567890
> >
> > 9 2 23 132
> >
> > ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
> >
> > 80 35 1 683 2
> >
> >
> > SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
> >
> > 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
> >
> >
> > The fender tag also has a large 22 stamped
> sideways
> > across the top. The car also had a trunion joint 4
> > speed. I know the auto's were slip joint in 65 but
> I
> > don't know about the 4 speed. The car has manual
> > steering and no air.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help, Gary
> >
>
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 19:17:35 -0700
From: "Bill Watson" <wwatson5@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 65 Satellite 426
Q = Radio : 1 : 441 : MusicMaster AM
S = Radio : 6 : 466 : Rear seat speaker with reverb
T = Tachometer : 8 : 468 : Tachomseter
U = Backup Lights : 3 : 473 : Backup lights
Z = ?? : 2. : Some say Vehicle Sales & Delivery : 652 : Sold car, but that
is the same us 7=2.
Bill
Vancouver, BC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary F. " <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: 65 Satellite 426
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The Q is above the 1, STU above 683 and Z above the 2.
Gary
> 3 = Electical Items : 9 : 539 : 3-speed/variable
> windshield wipers
>
> 7 = Vehicle Sales & Delivery : 2 : 652 : Sold Car
>
>
> The "23 above QR, and 132 above UVX:" were
> apparently internal plant codes.
>
>
> Which letters are above the "1 683 2" on the
> third row from the
> bottom?
>
> Bill
> Vancouver, BC
>
>
>----
>
> The top line would be 3 above 9, 7 above 2, 23
> above QR, and 132 above UVX.
>
>
> Thanks, Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Your numbers have shifted from the letters above
> due
> > to proportional
> > spacing.
> >
> > For the numbers on the top, " 9 2 23
> > 132", if you could just list
> > the numbers above them and eliminate the numbers
> on
> > the top row that are not
> > used,
> >
> > As for the next group,
> >
> > ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
> > 80 35 1 683 2
> >
> > AB = Engine : 80 - 426-cid, 1-4bbl carb, 10.3:1
> CR.
> > 365 BHP
> >
> > I suspect D=3 and E=5, so :
> > D = Transmission - 3 : 363 : 4-speed manual, floor
> > shift
> > E = Heater - 5 : 405 : Heater/Defroster
> >
> > Again, if you could list the numbers "1 683
> > 2" with the just the
> > letters above them, I could decode them.
> >
> > SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
> > 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
> >
> > SO NUMBER = Shipping Order Number where :
> > 211 - Scheduled build date - February 11, 1965
> >
> > BDY = Car Line / Series / Body Style :
> > R - Plymouth Belvdere
> > 4 - Satellite
> > 2 - 2-door hardtop
> >
> > TRM - Interior Trim
> > P - Trim Grade - Premium - Bucket Seats
> > 4 - Material - Vinyl
> > Y - Colour - Gold
> >
> > PAINT - Paint Code / Scheme
> > A - Roof Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> > A - Body Colour - Medium Gold Metallic
> > 1 - Style - Monotone
> >
> > For the engine number :
> >
> > "The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then --
> 2
> > 2 3 -- on bottom. The
> > engine has no casting numbers on the side or date
> > code, only a 6 on each
> > side"
> >
> > A - 1965 model year
> > 426 - 426-cid
> > VI - ?? unknown
> > 2 - February
> > 23 - 23rd
> > ---> date of assembly, February 23, 1965
> >
> > Now, as the engine assembly date is later than the
> > car, the engine appears
> > not to be original..
> >
> > The VIN should start with "R45" (R - Plymouth
> > Belvedere. 4 - Satellite, 5 -
> > 1965 model year) followed by a number for the
> > assembly plant. The last six
> > didigts for the sequential production number.
> >
> >
> > Bill
> > Vancouver, BC
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: "Gary F. " <gary-futrell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 3:12 PM
> > Subject: 65 Satellite 426
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > A friend recently bought a 65 Satellite - 4 speed
> > car
> > that has a 426 street wedge in it. We need some
> help
> > decoding it.
> >
> > The engine pad has -- A 426 VI ---on top then --
> 2
> > 2
> > 3 -- on bottom. The engine has no casting
> numbers
> > on
> > the side or date code, only a 6 on each side. The
> > engine also has a half inch oil pickup tube and
> > bosses
> > on each side of the main cap. like a Hemi.
> >
> > The fender tag has:
> >
> > 1234567890
> >
> > 9 2 23 132
> >
> > ABCDEFGHIJKL--------------------------------Z
> >
> > 80 35 1 683 2
> >
> >
> > SO Number BDY TRM PAINT
> >
> > 211 02303 R42 P4Y AA1
> >
> >
> > The fender tag also has a large 22 stamped
> sideways
> > across the top. The car also had a trunion joint 4
> > speed. I know the auto's were slip joint in 65 but
> I
> > don't know about the 4 speed. The car has manual
> > steering and no air.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help, Gary
> >
>
>
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:26:49 EDT
From: RCoronetfreak@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Crate Hemi engines
Cummins assembles crate motors for Mopar now. I am not sure how long they
have been doing the motors. They are supposed to be doing pretty good, heck
look at the Diesels. I have heard of some of the horror stories. Talked to a
guy locally that put a crate hemi in a low mileage '66 Charger and he went
through 2 motors and had to go into both, at Chrysler's expense. I also heard
that John Aruzza, another local, you know the famous Hemi builder, was
fixing the screw ups in the crate motors. I would personally buy a motor
assembled by someone such as John Aruzza to assemble one for me. He uses Mopar
blocks and then works his magic!
Rick
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 20:42:57 -0700
From: "Robert neal zimmerman" <northwestweirdo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: ballast resistor question
can a ballast resistor be problematic, or are they just a good /bad ,
functioning/non functioning type thing.
Neal Zimmerman, eugene oregon
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Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:49:36 -0500
From: Bob Crockett <bcrocket@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: ballast resistor question
The resistor itself is just a go-no go deal. However, they can run hot
and the push-on connectors sometimes get loose.
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:30:45 EDT
From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx
Subject: 451 list
Gary - just wanted to check if the parts list came through. If anyone has
questions, fell free to contact me off list. Joe
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Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:53:41 EDT
From: Joeydahook9@xxxxxxx
Subject: Off topic info request
Hey, Mr Watson... ever been to sechelt? Planing the first weekend in Aug.
Contact me off list. Thanks, Joe
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