RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial

[Dustin Cloud <hell_fish_65@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

A lot of people consider the 300 as the first muscle car, since it was the 
first to be heavily marketed for it horse power. The GTO is no more a first 
muscle car than the Mustang is the first pony car (Falcon, Comet, Valiant, 
and Dart all fit those bills before the Mustang was designed)



Dustin

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> From: Jim Ozolins <j_ozolins@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> CC: poncho@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial
> Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 16:27:39 -0400
>
>
> Yes, the word "precursor" is very important there.
>
> I won't argue that these high-powered cars weren't "muscular," but these
> precursors did not kick off the Muscle Car phenomenon of the 60's. That's 
> what I'm using as a definition of a Muscle Car. Not just power to weight 
> ratio.
>
> That's where I have to call B.S. when Chrysler claims to have invented the 
> musclecar.
> Chrysler, Ford, and the rest of GM had to catch up to Pontiac after the 
> introduction of the GTO.
> Only Pontiac had the foresight and the guts to take the risk, and once it 
> proved popular, and profitable, did the others climb on board.
>
>
> Jim O. (I invented the Pepperoni Pizza.)
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Dan McCormack <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Reply-To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: New Chrysler Corp. commercial
> > Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:48:57 +0000
> >
> > From the Wikipedia Encyclopedia. Notice the last sentence:
> >
> > The Studebaker Golden Hawk was a two-door pillarless hardtop coupe type
> > car produced by the Studebaker Corporation of South Bend, Indiana
> > between 1956 and 1958. The Golden Hawk took the basic shape of the
> > 1953-on Champion/Commander Starliner hardtop coupe but added a large,
> > almost vertical eggcrate grille and raised hoodline in place of the
> > earlier car's swooping, pointed nose, as well as a raised trunklid and
> > befinned rear quarters.
> >
> > That grille and raised hood were to take a larger engine, Packard's big
> > 352 in³ (5.8 L) V8 at 275 bhp (205 kW). This big, powerful engine in
> > such a light car gave the Golden Hawk a phenomenal power-to-weight ratio
> > (and thus performance) for the time; of 1956 American production cars,
> > the Golden Hawk was second only to Chrysler's 300 B by that measure -
> > and the expensive Chrysler was a road-legal NASCAR racing car. The
> > Golden Hawk can be considered, like the Chryslers, a precursor to the
> > muscle cars of the 1960s
> >
> >
> > Jim Ozolins wrote:
> > >
> > > Crap! I didn't know the '64 GTO was a Chrysler!
> > > I was interested by that commercial, too.
> > >
> > > Did they take credit for inventing the internet, as well?
> > >
> > > Jim Ozolins
> > > '64 Valiant
> >
> >
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