I read the "Crossram Chronicles" article that Gary added to the website. It talks about a runner length of 15" being the magic number to scavenge the resonant pressure waves which result from the intake valve opening and closing. And that this length was tuned to an engine rpm of 5400. Giving the max wedge crossram manifold a distinct advantage over the earlier long ram manifold which was tuned to provide more torque and power from rpm's in the low 2000's to @ 4800. In reading general theory about intake manifolds it is stated that a single plane manifold generally works better at higher rpm than a dual plane which will give you more torque at lower rpm & better idle quality. Since a dual plane has longer runners this would seem to put these two theories at odds with each other. I don't think any of the commonly available street type intakes have runner lengths anywhere near 15". I'm thinking about The Holley Street Dominator and the Edelbrock Performer RPM in particular. But since the Performer is a dual plane it should have the longer runners, making it a better intake for low end torque and the Street Dominator a better top end unit. I am in the process of making some performance modifications to my 440 so I'm trying to understand this a little better. Can anyone clear this up for me, Earl, Don, anyone? Paul L. '63 Sport Fury 440/727 http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.