Don, Yes, your Hemi Dart may be gone, but you still have the knowledge that real cars have drive shafts. In his front wheel drive world it's hard for him to realize that you, I and others were "Mopar, when Mopar wasn't kool". Nick Tiberio FuryUs63 ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.