RE: SS Springs brought back up again

[Paul Lennemann <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx>]

The part # Layne is showing is the same as the ones that I installed w/o 
the extensions.  Mine bolted right in but w/ a lower ride height than 
the old worn out ones.  P/N's are P3690456 for the right and P3690457 
for the left.

Paul L.
'63 Sport Fury
440/727
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html

Layne Grissman wrote:
> 
> To all who are wondering...on our 64's, when you try the SS springs
> with the stock hangers it comes up short, and not fitting exactly as
> they should.  I tired this approach to try and save a little $.....you
> can get the springs on and mounted on both sides with stock, however,
> they do not line up whatsoever with the "pin" on the Rear end....
> 
> Once I installed the 2" extensions from Mopar, everything lined up,
> the pin seated nicely, and I was able to get all installed with no
> issues whatsoever.  I talked to Summit....I talked to Mopar....they
> said we do need these extensions.
> Here is a link to Summit Racing's list of cars and what they need:
> 
> http://www.summitracing.com/parts/DCC-3690456/Application/?query=3DYear|196=
> 
> 5&prefilter=3D1
> 
> Layne
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:31 AM, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> > In one of the reply's someone said 62/63 did not use them and 64/65 
> > did?.=
>  =A0I
> > thought they were all the same 62/65??. =A0I was left to believe that 66 
> > =
> and
> > newer B's needed them, and 65 and older B's did not. =A0And yes that two
> > inches can cause the shackles to bind in the rear doing funny things to 
> > t=
> he
> > springs & eventually the frame, but Layne said every thing aligned up 
> > wel=
> l?
> > The springs in a bind will do funny things to the ride height also. 
> > =A0Th=
> at's
> > the reason I had him look at the shackles going up and down for binding.
> > Also by all means never I repeat Never use those after market adjustable
> > extended length shackles as they will kill a set of new springs in a
> > heartbeat.
> >
> > Herb
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Pat Herman
> > Date: 11/25/09 07:58:01
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: SS Springs brought back up again
> >
> > I'm confused on the 2" front brackets Layne mentions. =A0I thought early
> > B-bodies used the stock front spring hanger with SS springs. =A0Are 
> > these
> > different brackets being referred to?
> >
> > Pat
> >
> >
> > Herb wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> You replaced the springs, I presume, because they were bad! =A0Did you
> >> replace
> >> the frame bushings for the shackles in the rear? =A0When you raise or
> >> lower
> >> the car do the shackles swing freely and equally & not binding? =A0One
> >> thing
> >> to try is loosen the six bolts, two bolts through the front of the
> >> spring &
> >> four shackle bolts on rear of spring then raise and lower the car to let
> >> the
> >> spring bushings neutral-out just confirming nothing is in a bind.
> >> Re-torque
> >> them with the car on the ground. =A0I bet the old drivers side spring 
> >> wa=
> s
> >> the
> >> weakest (Gets the most stress over 45 years especially if I was driving)
> >> and
> >> was compensated for by the torsion bar adjustment in past allignments.
> >> Are
> >> the T-bar adjusters equal? =A0Probably not! =A0I bet the drivers side is
> >> tighter! =A0Also if your car is aligned with you in it, it will sit 
> >> just=
>  a
> >> little higher on drivers side empty!
> >>
> >> If nothing is binding, I would get it aligned and see if that rectify's
> >> the
> >> problem, I am sure it will. =A0Also remind your alignment guy torsion 
> >> ba=
> r
> >> adjustment is required first. =A0Every time he adjusts them the car 
> >> need=
> s
> >> to
> >> be flexed up & down from the front & rear bumpers to equal out. =A0If
> >> after
> >> the alignment, and every thing is level, and you have one adjuster Allot
> >> tighter than the other then I would worry. =A0Other than that I would
> >> "Forget
> >> About It!!"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =
> =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF =EF=BB=BF
> >> =A0Herb
> >>
> >> 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> >> 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> >> 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1
> >> 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> >> 1970 Challenger RT 440 - 4 Sale
> >> 1999 Durango SLT 5.9
> >> 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1
> >> St. Louis, MO.
> >>
> >> http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
> >>
> >>
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >


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