To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
From: stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: gas tank rebuild story
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:39:07 -0500
They taught us how to repair tanks in school but with all the horror
stories
they told while demonstrating the process I've never even tried it. The
instructor had a large soldering "iron" which was in fact about 1 1/4"
square with a conical tip on one end, a shaft and wooden handle on the
other. He would heat the iron with a torch some distance from the tank,
then use the hot iron to apply flux, then solder to the tank. Of course
the
area to be repaired had been cleaned and prepped.
My ex brother-in-law (admittedly not the brightest light on the string)
was
attempting a repair on his '66 Satellite, and decided to use epoxy in
lieu
of any kind of heat in the name of safety. In order to plug the hole,
he
decided to thread a screw into the hole in the tank, then epoxy over the
top. The screw wouldn't quite go in, so he grabbed his trusty drill,
and...
The car and the garage were a total loss, along with siding on adjoining
houses. He escaped with minor burns but his buddy was scarred.
On the other end of the spectrum, I once worked for a guy who worked in
the
motor pool when he was in the Army. As he told the story, they were not
supposed to smoke in the garage, and kept all the jeep gas tanks filled
to
the top of the neck. If an officer came into the garage, he said they
would
ditch their butts into the tank and replace the cap. I never quite
bought
the story but he swore by it...
Bottom line, use extreme caution whenever working with a gas tank.
SC
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary [mailto:mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 1:52 PM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Tom Watters
Subject: Re: gas tank rebuild story
The idea of using exhaust is the safest and best way to weld a gas tank.
Just be sure to let the exhaust run a few minutes before welding. I use
a
brass rod. Gas weld.
---- Tom Watters <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Soldering Gun or Iron. Pretty good idea. No Spark, can control fire.
I'll have to remember that.
Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
For what it is worth I have welded on gas tanks before, have found
that it can be done with the right precautions,,,,,,,what has worked
for me in the past was the water rinse, and then to put a hose on
exhaust of a running vehicle and pump it into the tank, I said
weld, but was really brazing with brasse rod, have also known of
friends that use a soldering iron and soldered the holes shut, but
that is not my method of choice,,,,,,,,
In a message dated 1/26/2010 7:48:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,
spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
A while ago we had a long discussion here about repairing gas
tanks, which we concluded *can* be done--if done correctly. If not
done right....I'm forwarding the below story from the current Rock Auto
Newsletter.
Thanks,
Gary H.
============
"A friend of mine visited a car wash after we had just upgraded the
exhaust system on his 1991 Dodge Spirit R/T. The exhaust caught on
the wheel positioning guides for the automated carwash, pushing an
exhaust clamp into the gas tank and puncturing it. In a matter of a
few miles he went from a full tank to barely making it up his driveway
before running out of gas.
"My friend had just purchased a MIG welding setup, so we decided to
fix the hole by welding it shut. We removed the gas tank, filled it
with water as much as possible using a garden hose, and rinsed it
carefully. We couldn't fill it completely with water due to the
positioning of the fuel filler neck, but figuring we were safe, we
settled down on his front lawn to weld the hole shut.
"As soon as he pulled the trigger on the welding torch there was a
sound reminiscent of a fighter jet blasting overhead just over the
treetops. I had been standing, but when the noise stopped, I was
laying on my back and couldn't recall how I'd gotten there. My
friend was also flat on his back, welding torch still in hand,
looking stunned. His neighbors came outside and were all looking around
wondering where the thunderous noise had come from.
"Apparently the small space in the tank that was not full of water
had sufficient fumes in it to ignite causing the explosion. The 16
gallon gas tank had emptied itself completely of water in a fraction
of a second, leaving only steam wafting out the filler neck hole.
It had also doubled in size, expanding like a balloon, but
fortunately hadn't blown to pieces. We avoided any injury beyond the
ringing in our ears and wounded pride.
"Needless to say he bought a new gas tank and we never attempted to
weld a gas tank again.
"Matt in Washington"
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