Jim, As most of us, I have the shaped steel plates with the 4 casters. They work. Rough or dirty surface, they get tougher to push, but they are great if you have to move cars sideways a lot. I'm starting this year's Christmas list early and asking for the ones you mentioned with the jacks - we used these at Ford and they are the Super Bee's knees. They have hard urethane wheels that roll nicely most places and the jack allows you to just slide them beneath the tire (straddling front and rear) and lift that wheel off the ground by jacking it with your foot. The ones we had were aluminum with a nice matching rolling aluminum stand to hold the four casters when not in use. We were only moving Focii (more than one Focus) and Contours, but you could push the car wherever you wanted by yourself, or spin it around in a circle. Pricey, but as long as it's on Santa's tab... Don't know if I ever mentioned it, but we were building Electric Ford Rangers and Fuel Cell Focus's on the north end of the old Chrysler Lynch Road plant, right on the corner of Lynch Road and Mount Elliot. I used to look at the photos of cars staged at the end of the line and see if I could figure out where in the building it was, but could never match anything up. SC -----Original Message----- From: Jim Rowland [mailto:dodge440@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:29 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Car Dolly Fellows: Have any of you had any experiences with using a car dolly in the garage or outdoors? I have seen them where each dolly has its own jack, others with out jack in steel & aluminum. How hard is it to move the vehicle up a small incline? What size wheels? Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Jim 1965 Cornet/440ci ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.