RE: unlocking pistons?

[Kevin Merkley <krmerkley@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I cooked a poly after overhauling by not putting in the plug behind the 
oil filter adapter.  Check where the oil filter pie plate goes.  You 
should find a threaded hole.  

I did not know they existed and when I got the block back from the 
machine shop, they had installed the plugs at the rear of the block and 
there were no extras laying around to search for.  I put the engine 
together and ran it.  When cold, it ran good.

Once the engine got warm, it would quit with low throttle and not start 
until the engine cooled off.

I took the engine out and pulled it all apart to find every bearing in 
the engine shot.

When I took the engine back to get bored out, the manager looked at the 
block and asked "who took out the plug at the oil filter?".  I gave him 
the deer in the headldight look and he then said "if that plug is not 
there, the engine will run when cold and once hot will act like it was 
seizing up".  Exactly the symptoms I had.

Anyway, there may be two threaded holes at the oil filter area.

Please let us know what you find.

Regards,

K.




Jim wrote:
> 
> Hi David
> 
> There are 4 the same size, and 1 bigger plug, these have a female square 
> 
> hole for a rachet or some sort of a square bar to fit into.(smaller than 
> 3/8 
> but bigger than a 1/4 inch drive rachet?
> 
> Now I have fitted the 1 bigger plug and 2 smaller plugs into the back of 
> the 
> block (where the flywheel goes).
> 
> The other 2, I cant find anything with a thread to screw them into.
> 
> I must add that the block also has 2 very small different type of plugs 
> next 
> to the engine mounts (1 each side), but as I say, they are very small 
> and 
> are already in the block, I think they are water valleys?
> These 2 plugs are not the problem, and they can be screwed in with a 
> shifter 
> or spanner.
> 
> So I have 2 screw in plugs that are of the female type to find a home 
> for....lol
> 
> Thank's
> Jim
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Bailey" <bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 10:09 PM
> Subject: RE: unlocking pistons?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What size are these plugs? Are all 5 the same size? Might they be ¼? NPT 
> 
> pipe thread? Don?t know for sure but might there be ¼? NPT threaded 
> holes, 
> one on each side of the block into the water passages? Some folks put 
> petcocks in there. Like Chebbies? > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > From: jimfmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: unlocking pistons?
> > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:55:14 +1000
> >
> >
> > Yeah, I am new to Mopar power, I have built a few Clevos, but this plug
> > situation has me stumped too.
> >
> > I did not bother checking this before the block and crank were sent out, 
> > 
> > as
> > I did not think this was going to happen???????
> >
> > I have a few other ideas, and maybe contact the machinest and see if he
> > remembers where they went?
> > I have had the block back for about 6 weeks now.
> >
> > Thanks anyway
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "doug daniel" <dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: unlocking pistons?
> >
> >
> > hum ,,,,,i made the mistake of not putting them in a big block rebuild
> > ,,,thought maybe the same in your case,,,
> >
> > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Jim <jimfmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Jim <jimfmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: unlocking pistons?
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 7:47 AM
> > >
> > > Hi Doug
> > >
> > > Thank's for the reply, but there is no thread to screw
> > > these plugs in behind
> > > the timing cover on this block.
> > >
> > > They have to go somewhere else.
> > >
> > > Thank's
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "doug daniel" <dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 9:43 PM
> > > Subject: Re: unlocking pistons?
> > >
> > >
> > > 2 behind timing cover
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 6/10/10, Jim <jimfmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Jim <jimfmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: unlocking pistons?
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Date: Thursday, June 10, 2010, 12:36 AM
> > > >
> > > > Talking about working on poly motors?
> > > >
> > > > Can somebody please tell me how many "screw in plugs"
> > > the
> > > > 318 poly motor has?
> > > >
> > > > I sent my block and crank away to get machined a long
> > > while
> > > > ago, and when I got the block back, there was a small
> > > box
> > > > with 5 "screw in plugs" in it.
> > > > Now I have fitted 3 of them, they were easy to find,
> > > they
> > > > screwed into the back of the block.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I have 2 left to find a home for?
> > > > Can somebody tell me where they are meant to go??
> > > >
> > > > This is holding me up to get the rest of the motor
> > > > together, as I would like the motor running in the
> > > next 2
> > > > weeks???????
> > > >
> > > > Thank's
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary H." <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 2:29 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: unlocking pistons?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the tips everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, it is one of the fun and exotic engines
> > > known as
> > > > "semi-Hemi" Polys.
> > > > >
> > > > > (Ignore the current dumb Chrysler TV commercial
> > > that
> > > > makes fun of the semi-Hemi terminology.) :)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Gary H.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >
> > > > > ....Any chance this is motor is something fun
> > > and
> > > > exotic like a 392 hemi
> > > > >> or???
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Paul L.
> > > > >> '63 Sport Fury
> > > > >> 440/727
> > > > >
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Kevin R. Merkley
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