RE: Paddock is done?

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

Crane was taken over by S & S and they are making cams for motorcycles right now but the scuttlebutt is that they will start making cams for cars soon.
Later
Bill Harrison
65 Coronet 2 dr post

--- On Tue, 6/22/10, Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Steven Charette <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: Paddock is done?
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, June 22, 2010, 12:24 PM
> 
> Thanks for the kind comments.  And I loved Butch's
> point - sometimes it's
> just lousy timing.  Murphy has a designated parking
> spot here.
> 
> I don't want to belabor the point, but there is a natural
> cycle to these
> small businesses as well.  There are names like
> Fellwocks and Norm Brady who
> were around since long before I started, but as time goes
> on and priorities
> change new businesses start and older ones seem to get
> pushed to the
> shadows.  20 years ago local shops attended local and
> regional shows (like
> the Paddock in Bill's neighborhood) and prospered. 
> The internet has changed
> all that - someone with a slick website can take orders
> from old established
> businesses without breaking a sweat.
> 
> The sad part is that there is first hand knowledge that a
> lot of these guys
> have that is lost once they've moved on.  That's why
> we're seeing '63 Street
> Wedge cars and original '65 Coronets with hideaway
> headlights - after all,
> if you heard it on Barrett-Jackson, it must be true,
> right?
> 
> We're really lucky in this niche ('62-'65 Mopars) because
> there are so many
> really knowledgable people who take part - Jim Kramer, Joe
> Suchy, Wayne
> Brewer, Rick Allison, Norm Brady, Larry Pontnack, Bob
> Mazzolini, I could go
> on.  There are probably 10 I've missed for each name
> I've given.  In
> addition, the members on this list are a veritable treasure
> trove of
> accurate information.  You don't find this kind of
> camaraderie among other
> brands, or even other Mopar groups.
> 
> Anyway, to those we've lost the last year or two - Paddock,
> the Cranes, and
> others, I thank them for what they brought to the party and
> wish them well
> in whatever their futures may hold.  When things pick
> up I wouldn't be
> surprised to see some familiar faces among us again.
> 
> SC
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Butch Edison [mailto:waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:18 AM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Paddock is done?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I too am in business and will second Steve's comments. My
> income is down
> with no prosects for improvement, so have really dialed
> back on spending,
> especially on my cars. When I don't spend, vendors who rely
> on what is
> totally discretionary spending, suffer first and most. I'm
> very concerned
> about the shrinking pool of Mopar vendors. We tend to piss
> and moan about
> poor service and parts, but one of the alternatives is no
> parts. It's not
> always the worst vendors that fail. Business failures can
> be caused by many
> factors and Darwinism is not as frequent a cause of failure
> as Murphy's law.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> /Butch/Ferndale, WA 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 7:10:06 AM GMT -08:00
> US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: RE: Paddock is done? 
> 
> 
> Being in the industry I can tell you that everybody is
> hurting - sales have
> plummeted since 2007 and many companies were way, way out
> on the financial
> limb.  It takes a lot of cash to develop new products and
> many in the
> industry were/are leveraged to the hilt. 
> 
> It's understandable as things are tight all over - when the
> average Johnny
> Lunchbucket finishes paying the bills, there's not much
> left over for car
> parts.  It's the same if you own an old-car-related
> business, sales are off
> 40-60% and after you pay the bills there's not much left
> for new product
> development, new equipment, advertising, etc.  We've
> dropped all of our
> magazine advertising over the last two years just to cut
> cost and pinch
> every penny to make sure we survive the next 2-3 years.  
> 
> 
> Owning a business doesn't mean you're rich.  Some have
> other business
> interests that pay the bills, have a fully funded
> retirement, a spouse with
> a good job with benefits, or are independently wealthy.
>  Many, including
> myself, have invested everything they have to keep the
> doors open, and
> sometimes it's just not enough.  You'll be seeing less
> vendors each year at
> shows like the Classic Events or Mopar Nationals because of
> this and the
> effect the internet has had on show trade.  It's not that
> the vendors don't
> want to be there, or that they are "blowing off" the
> customers, it's simple
> economics.  If it costs $10K to go to a show and you don't
> bring home a
> profit, it's hard to justify the outlay as an advertising
> expense. 
> 
> Try to bear this in mind when you call a vendor and get
> automated response
> or are directed to the internet - having somebody sit at
> the phone at a good
> hourly rate plus 20% or so burden comes right off the
> bottom line.  Quite
> often we are all making parts and just can't get to the
> phone when it rings.
> 
> 
> Just wanted to share the view from the other side - making
> Mopar parts isn't
> like making Chevy parts - we have a very limited niche
> market with
> comparitively low volumes, so parts do cost more.  Most of
> us do it because
> we love the cars and the people.  This isn't an industry
> where you would
> invest money to make big returns. 
> 
> Rant mode off. 
> 
> SC 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Bailey [mailto:bb64d440@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 6:32 AM
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx;
> mml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: Paddock is done? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hello Bill, I read the same thing in MCG. Yes, the Paddock
> is closed. As I
> understand from MCG, the Paddock stopped their advertising
> in MCG a while
> back like some other advertisers also did, 'presumably',
> because of the bad
> eco crunch. MCG said, there was no indication at the time
> of any other
> problem. Later, MCG had an appointment arranged with them
> (probably to
> discuss / encourage continuing to advertise in their mag)
> but he / they
> never showed for the appointment. I've heard this same
> scenario from others,
> like yourself, that tried to make contact / purchases with
> them but to no
> avail or explanation. Other than (understandably), a very
> sudden or
> catastrophic life event issue, this seems to be a very
> unprofessional way to
> close the door. 
>   
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx;
> mml@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > From: Y1TopBanana73@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Paddock is done? 
> > Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 21:25:28 -0400
> > 
> > 
> > I read something in Mopar Action or MCG that the
> Paddock has closed it's 
> doors? 
> > 
> > Anything past the main page of their website yields
> this... 
> > 
> > " 
> > Thank you for visiting the Paddock 
> > We are temporarily unable to take calls or orders at
> this time. 
> > We apologize for the inconvenience." 
> > 
> > Anyone know what happened? I thought they were pretty
> big?!?!?! 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Bill M 
> > 65 Coronet 500 'vert http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo62008.html 
> > 73 Dart Sport, 00 Cherokee Sport, 01 Dakota SLT 
> > 21 Model T Depot Hack, 92 Accord, 06 Mazda 3 
> > 
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> the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect
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> Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your
> privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!
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