Re: Brake Light Switch (was Electrical question)

[Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx>]

nub on the end of the rod that is exactly how mine is on my 65 500 ,i recently changed my master cyllinder and the new one did not have the nub behind the bushing at the pedal hook up pivot point that touches the white plastic plunger on the switch and my brake lights stayed on so i had to pull the master cylinder back off and change the rod from my old to the new!works fine now but i dont know why the company i bought my new master from sent me one without the nub on it?actually when i installed the new master i thought that i could loosen the switch and move it forward enough to hit the nobless new rod but no luck, so what i found out was it would have been much easier to bench inspect old and new and switch out the rods before installing rather than install, pull, switch rods, and install then rebleed as there is not alot of room under there and all four bolts holding the master to the firewall have the nuts on the inside a air ratchet sure made the
 job much easier!!!! although my 66 fury has the nubless rod and the switch plunger actually hits on the flat front of the brake pedal arm.............   

--- On Fri, 6/10/11, MO <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: MO <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Brake Light Switch (was Electrical question)
> To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, June 10, 2011, 2:06 AM
> Dave ,  IIRC there is an
> extension of the rod that comes out of the
> master cylinder to the brake pedal  on past the
> attaching bolt-
> bushing. That extension pushes on the brake light
> switch.  I am pretty
> sure that is the way on my 64 Dodge non- power
> brakes.......................MO.
> 
> On Jun 9, 9:17 pm, Dave64 <lt7d...@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > I was fooling with mine this afternoon.  I found that
> the plunger was all gummed up inside the switch.  I sprayed
> it up with WD-40 to get it working again (must be a spring
> inside that was sticking).  So it seems to be working fine
> now.  A couple of questions, though.  
> >
> > The end of the plunger has a knob on it that looks
> like it should line up with a larger part of the pedal
> mechanism, but mine lines up with a skinny part of the
> pedal.  Perhaps that's correct?  The bracket the switch is
> attached to is slightly loose, so the switch doesn't seem to
> stay in the exact proper location and the brake lights now
> stay on unless I pull up on the pedal.  I tried to get to
> the bolt that tightens the bracket up, but what a bugger
> that is to reach and get a wrench on.  My daughter has some
> success getting in there with the instrument panel removed.
>  But she had to go to work before I got things finished up.
>  We'll try it again when we have time.  I'm thinking a new
> switch would be a good idea anyway, but looking for any tips
> you guys may have on the position of the switch and getting
> to that mounting bolt above the steering column.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave
> > '64 Belvedere
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/8/11, 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > From: 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: Electrical question
> > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List Clubhouse"
> <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 8, 2011, 7:15 AM
> > > My brake lights now work. I cleaned
> > > off the terminals and shot some
> > > electrical contact spray on them and in the
> plunger area on
> > > the switch
> > > and it works great but will probably  buy a
> switch and
> > > replace it
> > > anyway, they are reasonably priced.
> >
> > > i did pull the grounding strap on the fuel tank
> and sanded
> > > the gas
> > > lines. With my handy dremel tool cleaned out the
> contact
> > > surfaces on
> > > the strap, still nothing. So I will do some
> testing on the
> > > sending
> > > unit and clean some other connections to make
> sure I have a
> > > good
> > > ground. So will see what happens. Could be the
> voltage
> > > limiter in the
> > > cluster too.
> > > On Jun 5, 8:36 am, "Ollie" <satellite1...@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I suspect that the brake light problem is in
> the turn
> > > signal switch. I have
> > > > had 2, 65 Plys and both have  the same
> problem.
> > > Wiggle the turn signal lever
> > > > and the brake lights will go on and off.
> Always the
> > > right side on both mine.
> > > > Ollie
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Dave64
> > > > Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2011 8:07 AM
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: Re: Electrical question
> >
> > > > Another possibilty on your brake lights
> could be the
> > > turn signal switch.  I
> > > > think mine is bad - intermittently
> works/doesn't work.
> > >  I have a new Daniel
> > > > Stern switch on the bench - just need to get
> around to
> > > installing it.
> >
> > > > Dave
> >
> > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > From: 64-polara <wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Electrical question
> > > > > To: "The 1962 to 1965 Mopar Mail List
> Clubhouse"
> > > > > <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 10:04 AM
> > > > > Yup
> > > > > all of the other lights were working. I
> will
> > > check the
> > > > > ground strap
> > > > > and I had thought about the switch and
> doing what
> > > you said.
> > > > > Will check
> > > > > it out tonight.
> > > > > Thanks
> >
> > > > > On Jun 2, 7:37 am, Dodger7...@xxxxxxx
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Fuel gauge,,,,,,, did the rest of
> your
> > > gauges work
> > > > > properly? if so it is
> > > > > > more than likely the ground strap
> >
> > > > > > Brake lights,,,,, did your
> interior lights,
> > > and dash
> > > > > lights work ? if not
> > > > > > check fuses, if they did work,
> jumper the
> > > wires at the
> > > > > brake light switch,
> > > > > > if  they work then, it is the
> switch,,,, if
> > > they
> > > > > still do not work, I would
> > > > > > find the  rear chassis harness
> plug
> > > connection, and
> > > > > check for corrusion, both
> > > > > > your  taillights and fuel gauge
> probably go
> > > through
> > > > > that same plug,,,
> >
> > > > > > In a message dated 6/2/2011
> 6:47:42 A.M.
> > > Central
> > > > > Daylight Time,
> >
> > > > > > wchus...@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > writes:
> >
> > > > > > Well the  Polara rolled out of
> the garage
> > > under its
> > > > > own power yesterday
> > > > > > afternoon.  What a great feeling
> after its
> > > innards
> > > > > and outards
> > > > > > cluttering up my garage  for the
> last
> > > year.
> >
> > > > > > I replaced the fuel sending unit
> about 4
> > > years ago.
> > > > >  While the car had
> > > > > > been in my garage waiting to go
> back
> > > together the gas
> > > > >  guage had been
> > > > > > working fine. Yesterday started it
> up drove
> > > it a few
> > > > > miles  and it was
> > > > > > ok just low on gas. About an hour
> later
> > > after putting
> > > > > the wheel  covers
> > > > > > back on I start it up and the
> guage is
> > > bottomed out
> > > > > below the  E
> > > > > > mark.So I shut it off, start it up
> again
> > > same thing.
> > > > > Get some gas  in
> > > > > > it, still the same thing. Later
> took my wife
> > > out to DQ
> > > > > as a  little
> > > > > > celebration and cruise so while
> waiting in
> > > line the
> > > > > guage starts  to
> > > > > > move in the full direction then
> stopped and
> > > went to
> > > > > empty again.
> > > > > > I  will check out the fuel
> sending unit
> > > wires and
> > > > > ground strap
> > > > > > tonight.Anybody  have any
> thoughts on
> > > that?
> >
> > > > > > Next issue. Brake lights were
> working fine
> > >  before
> > > > > yesterday. Now they
> > > > > > are not. Noticed that at Dairy
> Queen  also
> > > > > > when i didnt see my brake light
> reflection
> > > in the big
> > > > > aXX  Navigator
> > > > > > behind me. Maybe the switch for
> the brake
> > > light at the
> > > > > pedal? if  so
> > > > > > what would be a good source to get
> it from?
> >
> > > > > > Other than that it  was a great
> feeling to
> > > be back in
> > > > > the bucket seats
> > > > > > again all 4 windows  down.
> >
> > > > > > Will post some pics soon.
> >
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