Re: hot starting & fuel?

Yes, the intake needs to be removed to block the passage. You insert thin tin plates in between the intake and the heads at the X-Over location.

Best way to see if you do indeed have a fuel boiling problem is to ; drive car until its completely warmed up, park it and wait a few minutes, then open the hood, remove the air cleaner and look down the carb throat. Do not start the engine or move the throttle. If you see raw fuel in the venturi or on the throttle plates, or fuel dripping from the boosters, then you have fuel boiling out of the bowls and flooding the engine during hot soak. Plug condition (color) is not indicative of hot-soak flooding or not.

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From: jacob fox

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 4:00 PM

Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

okay so my carb doesnt have anything electric on it. its just a 2b carb. i dont really know the make, ill have to look it up in the service manual. how would you go about blocking that x over? hopefully without pulling the intake. i need to pull plugs....maybe they would show if its flooding at startup? im trying to think of the easiest and cheapest solution to try first. before i start tearing stuff apart. :P but in other news, hopefully the people at mmpar.com has my horn piece and trunk emblem! i believe thats all i need for a fully restored car! besides a little crack in my dash pad....which im not EVEN gonna ask for. i know theres no possible way of finding another one lol

On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jacob Fox <imfast101@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Okay thanks I'll look at it when I get home. Yea I haven't checked the fuel filter yet, I'ma do that ASAP. I'm interested to see what comes out of it. I might put one before pump and after to see if I got rust without pulling that tank, it's full of gas! I hate to go with a electric fuel pump. I went w one on an elco and it always gave me some kind of problem. I went back with a manual performance fuel pump and all my problems were over. The guy I bought it from said he replaced fuel pump, it's obvious he did cause it looks brand new. Ima check out that x over whenever I can see the pic on my computer n look at car. I feel that I'ma replace everything on ignition and fuel and it's gonna be the last thing I change and cost a fortune :P

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On Jun 25, 2011, at 5:04 PM, "65" <65val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It's the passage cast into the manifold,under the carb, that provides heat on cold start-up...but also really heats up the carb base when at operating temp. Some carbs don't like the extra heat, especially on hot soak. The fuel is heated in the bowls ,and ,boils over into the venturies and down into the intake runners, causing flooding on hot start-up. Attached is a pic of the exhaust X-over in the intake....
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacob Fox" <imfast101@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?
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> What do you mean by heat x over? I found some old insulation in the back of the intake when I got it, it was stuffed into the back in a cavity
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jun 25, 2011, at 4:05 PM, "65" <65val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> Thick carb gasket works too...as does blocking the heat X-over in the intake, if you don't need the heat.
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>>
>> Darwin/Victoria,BC Canada
>> '65 Cdn. Valiant Custom 100'vert...**SOLD**
>> '67 Dart GT 'vert - 273/904
>> http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e285/65val/
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:39 AM
>> Subject: hot starting & fuel?
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>>
>> I'm starting a new subject topic. Jacob had asked about delayed starting when his 1964 Chrysler engine is hot.
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>> Modern "gas" is designed with fuel injected systems in mind.
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>> I'm wondering if that fuel pump heat shield Don, Nick and Rich have reported on is something Jacob should consider?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Gary H.
>>
>>>> ...Its got 110k miles. Fires right up.... when the motors hot it takes a second to start. Usually If I just keep it cranking it'll fire. I haven't done a tune up yet since I bought it...idk if that's the problem but I hear something about gas boiling off. Maybe y'all can help me or steer me in a direction. Thanks!
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