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Re: hot starting & fuel?



Haha yea the surprise is always the best part, but towing is definitely where I cross the line of fun and crosses the next line of "excessive money spending". Which is totally no bueno..

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On Aug 1, 2011, at 10:03 PM, "Stephen Andrachek" <s.andrachek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Its just a Max Wedge cross-ram.  They are very cold-blooded but using the chokes helped turn it into a different machine.
 
I carry extra tranny fluid, oil, clean rags, hand soap, etc.  You never know what you are going to get into.  Which, to me, is half the fun (unless you have to call a tow truck).
 
Chick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Fox
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

That just sounds like a complicated setup! I never had anything with dual quads...

I think on my next long off ima get all fluids changed and take a road trip in her..of course ima need to rack up on some emergency supplies, and "extra" things like your talking about. First time won't be too far, but mopars are meant to be driven!! Hopefully I won't have any problems! 

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On Aug 1, 2011, at 12:20 AM, "Stephen Andrachek" <s.andrachek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

My car was a bitch to start.  Dual quad cross-ram and it had chokes just hanging on it.  It always popped through the carbs when cold.  We hand-choked it and it did better so on went electric chokes.
 
Now the car starts very easily, hot or cold, just by pushing on the gas pedal hard enough to feel it move.  Then crank the engine.  It will start when gas gets flowing through the carbs.  Don't pump the pedal.
 
I know most new cars you pump the pedal once and let it all the way up and then start it up.  Those computer-controlled cars are hard to beat, but all the old timers who had cars probably remember something they had to look out for and bring extra of...brake fluid, screwdrivers, pliers, etc.  Guys just like to fool with mechanical things like cars.  Its a good hobby.  Nothing like putting the pedal down and feeling the car pull hard.
 
Chick
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Fox
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

So update on the hard start, so I got an original owners manual for my car. It said when starting hold pedal down 1/3 to 1/2 when starting whether hot or cold. It sets the automatic choke and when it's hot the choke won't activate. I tried it and eureka! No problems at all. When starting I always used to pump the pedal once or twice before starting when cold and it said do not do that, but do it once after car is has been started cold to reset choke. I'm sure y'all all knew that but I'm sure didn't since I'm new to mopars.....FYI getting seats back Monday...I'll post pics of what it looks like! 

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On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:12 PM, "Stephen Andrachek" <s.andrachek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Then the choke and fast-idle cam that works with the electric choke are probably where the problem lies.
 
Chick
----- Original Message -----
From: jacob fox
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

okay how do you make subfolders etc? im new to gmail.

i think we are talking about two different things...the cam hes talking about is actually on the carb, not the fuel pump. ima check out the choke thing first and see if that fixes it before i make a shield for the fuel pump.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Stephen Andrachek <s.andrachek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What pic in what service manual?  That's a clue for us to exploit. 
First, it could be a cable or part of a set up to make your inside air hot in the winter or cool in the summer.  Then it would be part of it on the outside and the inside of the dash.  This will probably already be answered by the time you get it.  Then just see the black and bold line at the bottom and if you know what to do just delete this and all other emails if you found your answer just make some sub-folders in email with a main folder, 1962 to 1965 Q and A. and subfolders under that for reference.  Or one of many other ways.  Access Gary's web site via your cell phone.  I'm lucky enough to get by but many others struggle.  Jacob seems like he could hook something like that up forhimself if he wants but to me it is like reinventing the wheel since its already been done.  I probably beating a dead horse below.  But anyone alrealy knowinging it doesn't have to read it and should always check out Gary's site before doing anything anyway.
 
Lot's of stuff can run off one kind of cam or another.  The fuel pump runs off a cam.  There is one bolt there that you need a special wrench to get to or have a new fuel pump put on by someone with that special wrench (usually homemade) so all bolts are tight on the fuel pump.  It can be disabled with plate held on by two little bolts.  If not, the mechanical pump goes on right there.  That pump contains I think three and maybe four bolts holding it in.  Even if the person who got it out couldn't get it back in, he could have just left it out, causing the other bolts to loosen and cause problems.  With an electric fuel pump and a pressure regulator, you don't need no steenin' fuel pump and you can take it out and plug up the hole(s).  I think the plate covers it all.
 
Coming out of the side of the block is a rod made out of metal about  3/8"or so thidk with a spring behind it.  This may be close to the fuel pump or part of the reassembly when you put a new one on.  Here's where you can put in a heavier spring in for more  oil pressure on a 413 and up Mopar block.  Some used to put a flat washer behind the cap-screw on that held it together and make the spring stronger that way.
 
Gary's site has a lot more stuff on it, but you are narrowing down the problem and it could still be lots of things.  On top of the other things
 
----- Original Message -----
From: jacob fox
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

is there anyway to disable the cam till i get a chance to get something else? i noticed it was stuck the other day after comparing my carb to a pic in the service manual. i noticed something was different so i fiddled with it and click it went where it should. its so hot down here all the time i dont really need it right now, maybe when it gets cold in december-january.

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Stephen Andrachek <s.andrachek@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Get a carb like it rebuilt by someone who knows what they are doing or get a new carb that hooks up to your linkage ok.  That sounds like a good place to start.  The "fast idle" cam seems to be stuck.  This cam keeps the engine at fast idle until it warms up enough.  Blocked heat risers may cause this, but I would guess only in colder weather and only until the engine warmed up.
 
Remember the old gas and the fuel tank and fuel filters too.
 
Chick
----- Original Message -----
From: jacob fox
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:19 PM
Subject: Re: hot starting & fuel?

i just checked out those links...ill def be making one of those! one thing i noticed though starting my car yesterday. i noticed that my carb has no electric choke. when i crank it no matter hot or cold i believe the choke is activating. I noticed by the high idle and when i give it rpm a little while after starting it goes back down. any ideas to check and see if thats my problem? i never messed with any carb other than a electric eldelbrock 4barrel, so this old 2barrel is new to me. Thanks!

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