Re: Mopars - PIPA and SOPA - Admin. note

[Paul L <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx>]

An analogy I heard on the radio today driving between appointments.
Robbing a bank is illegal and so if the robber drove on a street to
make his getaway do we shut down all the streets because they are used
to assist in a crime?

Paul L.
63 Sport Fury
440/727

On Jan 18, 4:16 pm, Anthony Brummett <brumm...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 1:39 PM,  <ALIENVO...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Gary:  I just saw some information on this today on Fox News (yes, I watch
> > Fox), and they were interviewing a Congressman about SOPA and PIPA, and he
> > was adamant that these legislations would only apply to foreign sites which
> > provide much of the piracy of American intellectual properties (movies,
> > recordings, etc), and would not impact American sites whatsoever.
>
> First off, it doesn't make much sense for the US Congress to attempt
> to regulate activity that happens outside the borders of the US.  In
> the scope of this particular bill, other countries have their own laws
> regulating distribution of copyrighted material which may include
> having shorter time periods before something enters the public domain,
> or different penalties depending on whether the material was
> distributed in a commercial sense, or personal.  These media companies
> are completely within their rights to take it up in the foreign
> jurisdiction using their laws.
>
> It also shifts the prosecution of these alleged copyright
> infringements from a civil action (the owner of the copyright suing
> the person doing the distribution) to a criminal action (the
> government brings a case against the distributor which could include
> fines and jail time).  It seems awfully unfair for this one particular
> kind of industry to have its business model enforced by the
> government, especially if it's in pursuit of a non-US citizen overseas
> which would require action of US citizens and companies to enforce.
> If someone is pirating movies, they can already be sued under existing
> law.
>
> It not only makes distribution a crime, it also makes sharing links to
> places that do the distribution a crime, and possibly places that have
> links to links to places, links to links to links etc.  It's similar
> to the difference between actually robbing a bank, and saying "if you
> need money, you could rob a bank".  This provision is what has much of
> the Internet in a tizzy.  If some place hosts a site that accepts user
> comments, and one of the users posts a message that includes a link to
> one of these distribution sites, the owner of the first web site
> containing the comments is now running afoul of this bill.
>
> And finally, the actual language of the bill does not restrict itself
> only to overseas web sites.  The whole "only apply to foreign sites"
> thing is only coming out the mouths of people talking up the bill.http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d112:h.r.3261:
> is a link to the bill.  If you look at section 102(a) it defines
> "foreign infringing site" as basically any web site accessible to US
> citizens.  Yes, it uses the word "foreign", but not in the way anyone
> would think it would mean.
>
> -- Tony

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