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Re: Speaking of power steering...



Well, it's DONE!  This should (hopefully) be the last report on the AZDart power steering. 

I contacted Borgeson about the hose problem and was told that I had the wrong p/s pump, their hoses only work with the later Saginaw pump.
That was the first I'd heard of that - would have been nice to know last April when I bought the steering box.  No-one could reasonably expect the
manufacturer to supply hose kits for any combination of their steering box and whatever pump someone happened to use.  I don't know what year
Chrysler changed to the "late Saginaw" pump, but I would be surprised if Borgeson could not have gotten that info and made it known to purchasers
of their Mopar modified G.M. p/s steering boxes.  Sorry 'bout the rant....

Anyway, my buddy and I talked about cutting and splicing the hose to correct the clocking so that was the first thing he did this morning.  He then
topped up the pump reservoir, started the car, and ran the steering all the way left and right and discovered that the wheels vibrated several degrees
back and forth with no steering wheel input.  Another call to Borgeson (no toll free #) got the reply that they had seen that if the hoses were reversed,
that they are different size hoses, and the return hose from the box was supposed to be connected to the port nearest the firewall.  Oh, NOW they tell
me that - and on my dime for the phone call!  Again, it would have been nice.....

So we changed the port assignment of the hoses and now have a correctly functioning power steering system in the AZDart for the first time in its life!!
The only remaining questionable area that I've thought of is the splice in the pressure hose, which was made from a short piece of steel brake line with
a small flare on each end, coated with super glue and with two screw-type hose clamps on each end.  Not as pretty as I would like, but it's shown no
signs of leaking or loosening when tested fully warmed up and wheels turned full lock in both directions several times.

I will be discussing the easily avoidable installation issues with Borgeson and the ebay seller I got the box from.  I will also have a real hydraulic shop
duplicate our spliced pressure hose just to be sure.  As always, thanks for all the helpful input!  The project would have been more difficult without it.

BC


On 1/14/2014 1:48 PM, Richard Kinsley wrote:
You are correct Mo.  They do have ends with different length metal portions. 

Also there is no need to cut the hose to show orientation of the fittings. Just use a marker on the end to show which way you want the 90 to point.


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Steve Mick <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From looking at the picture, he doesn't have enough hose to sacrifice any of it.  But  I think there are hose ends that  have extended metal tubeing  that would gain back the total length...( italics not intended)..................................MO
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From: Herb
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Speaking of power steering...

I'm just trying to rack my brain but I strongly believe they make the angle ends that swivel also.  As the hoses are not cheep I would call your local jobber and verify or ask them how they want it before I started cutting.  O'Reilly's carries SAE & Metric ends also as I bet your guy will in todays world.
 
 
 
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Bob
Date: 1/14/2014 11:44:21 AM
Subject: Re: Speaking of power steering...
 
Thanks for that, Dodger!  I think modifying the existing hose to fit what's needed by cutting it up and duct taping the pieces into the shape and connections I need will do.  One small challenge that I may not have mentioned is that the Mopar end of the hose needs an S.A.E. flared fitting, and the Borgeson end is metric.  I feel like it's coming together, and I appreciate any other thoughts as well.

BC


On 1/14/2014 11:30 AM, Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
I would check with store, they also have angled ends that may work for your application

 


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