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Elmore
Posted 2024-05-31 2:13 PM (#635474)
Subject: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?


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Hello knowledgeable Persons,

I'm considering just going ahead and putting kits in both my trunnion joints when I swap transmissions. Looks like there are kits that year for small or large joints. I'm gonna assume that a strip-down 6 cyl. Plaza is going to be the small joints - am I correct in this assumption, anyone know for sure?

Thanks in advance!
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-05-31 5:35 PM (#635478 - in reply to #635474)
Subject: RE: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?



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Your Plaza will have front and read ball and trunion (or ball and pin) U-joints protected by a rubber boot at both ends.

I believe that the PN for the boot kit in question is 1603 397 (or 1603397 (no space) when researching the internet.

On that basis, here is one example of such a kit:

https://www.hiltopautoparts.com/product/nos-mopar-u-joint-cover-fron...

There might be cheaper alternatives out there.





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mstrug
Posted 2024-05-31 5:39 PM (#635479 - in reply to #635474)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?



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Elmore
Posted 2024-05-31 6:26 PM (#635481 - in reply to #635479)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?


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Thanks all. This should work, correct?

https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-PN-1603398-Ball-Trunion-U-Joints-p/8...

I can't seem to find it now, but I thought I saw something where there was a different (larger) joint in some applications. Pretty sure mine is not.
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-05-31 9:06 PM (#635482 - in reply to #635481)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?



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Elmore - 2024-05-31 3:26 PM
I can't seem to find it now, but I thought I saw something where there was a different (larger) joint in some applications. Pretty sure mine is not.


You might have found this post in which I documented three known sizes of 1950's Mopar ball and trunion universal joints. Your Plaza would have
the smallest size (3.75")

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71485&...

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Elmore
Posted 2024-06-01 7:55 AM (#635485 - in reply to #635482)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?


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Thanks, as always, for the awesome info!

Can you confirm (or opine) whether this is the correct service kit for the small joint? I'm pretty sure it is. Seems like my best bet price-wise:

https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-PN-1603398-Ball-Trunion-U-Joints-p/8...

Thanks!

P. S. - I LOVE BC!!! I've been there or through there several times. I wish I was there now, beautiful landscape! Are you near Vancouver, or further inland?



Edited by Elmore 2024-06-01 7:56 AM
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56D500boy
Posted 2024-06-01 11:30 AM (#635487 - in reply to #635485)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?



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Elmore - 2024-06-01 4:55 AM
Thanks, as always, for the awesome info!
Can you confirm (or opine) whether this is the correct service kit for the small joint? I'm pretty sure it is. Seems like my best bet price-wise:
https://www.moparmall.com/MoPar-PN-1603398-Ball-Trunion-U-Joints-p/8...


You're welcome. I try to help. I have some resources and I know how to use them. And I am a "sharer" and former (in one of my lives) an educator.

Back to the topic:

*IF* a kit shows front and rear booted ball and trunion bits, it is for the smaller Ball and trunion. The larger ones only had one booted ball and
trunion joint (at the front end of the driveshaft). The rear used a more conventional cross and ??? universal.

As for Mopar Malls being a "Best bet price-wise", that sentiment if very rare. Typically people say they (Mopar Mall and Atlas Parts, etc. (all the same
out of Temecula CA), a *VERY* expensive.

Be aware that the big pins have to a) be pressed out of the drive shaft ends and b) have to be precisely installed (again with a press). Hope you have
the factory service manual for the details on that.

As for Mopar Mall's product code 817-051(X2)_E, I don't think that it relates to the OE service kit numbers.



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Elmore
Posted 2024-06-03 9:38 PM (#635517 - in reply to #635474)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?


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Thanks,

Got press and factory service manual! Do you know of a cheaper place for kits for both ends?
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Old Ray
Posted 2024-06-04 8:48 AM (#635525 - in reply to #635517)
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Elmore - 2024-06-03 7:38 PM Do you know of a cheaper place for kits for both ends?

I guess with two broken hands it is going to be difficult to change the ujoints? 

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Elmore
Posted 2024-06-04 12:27 PM (#635530 - in reply to #635525)
Subject: Re: '56 Plaza - What Size Trunnion Kit?


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Old Ray - 2024-06-04 8:48 AM

I guess with two broken hands it is going to be difficult to change the ujoints? 



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