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vedette
Posted 2015-09-03 5:56 AM (#488779 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-03 6:18 AM (#488781 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-03 9:08 AM (#488785 - in reply to #81647)
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lamar
Posted 2015-09-03 8:32 PM (#488841 - in reply to #488785)
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-09-03 8:40 PM (#488842 - in reply to #81647)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2015-09-03 9:50 PM (#488844 - in reply to #488842)
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Location: Parts Unknown		VERY interesting to see that paperwork for the 58 NY'er convertible. SIX THOUSAND 1958 DOLLARS !!!

I priced my Fireflite out using the dealer price sheets and came out about the same. That seemed
shockingly high, considering my parents bought their rather upscale new home for something in the
13K range about that time.

It would be one outrageously expensive car today that would cost half the price of an upscale home.
No wonder they did not sell many of them.

Makes me wonder what Lincolns, Cadillacs, and Imperials sold for back then !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2015-09-03 10:15 PM (#488847 - in reply to #488844)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Looks like Mr. Metzler traded in a 1957 Ford Fairlane 500 2HT for his new 1958
NY'er convertible ... based on the above paperwork and a little research what
"Model 63A" meant:

http://www.1957ford.com/asp/gallery.aspx?catmstrid=1&catdetid=7

With a V-8 base price of $2439, the trade-in allowance of $2988, this was either
VERY generous or he had a very well-optioned 57 Ford !

I'd sure like to talk with Mr. Metzler and asked why he did what he did. Was it
the stunning NY'er styling ? Was the Ford a dog ? Did he regularly buy new cars
like this ? I wonder what line of work he was in ?

Cool stuff !
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2015-09-03 10:30 PM (#488849 - in reply to #488847)
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Location: Parts Unknown		Miami whitepages shows TWO Glenn O. Metzlers, BOTH aged 87 years old. Perhaps
two listings for the same guy ? OK, now I want to know the back story on the above
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imopar380
Posted 2015-09-03 11:33 PM (#488852 - in reply to #488849)
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Ray Bell
Posted 2015-09-03 11:40 PM (#488855 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia		I wouldn't hesitate...

Those old blokes just love to talk about what they did when they were young.





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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-03 11:44 PM (#488857 - in reply to #81647)
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Go for it Doc, we want to hear the story!!!
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Chrycoman
Posted 2015-09-04 3:25 AM (#488866 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Vancouver, BC		Some 1958 convertible base prices (without any options) :

Buick Roadmaster - $4,690
Buick Limited - $5,125
Cadillac Series 62 - $5,454
Imperial Crown - $5,759
Lincoln Continental Mark III - $6,223
Chrysler New Yorker - $4,761
Chrysler 300-D - $5,603
DeSoto Fireflite - $4,152
DeSoto Adventurer - $4,749

The above are F.O.B. suggested prices - at the factory ready to be shipped and not including shipping.

Dealer seems to have added a bit of a mark up.

Just for shock comparison, the Canadian suggested prices for a 1958 convertible -
Chrysler New Yorker - $6,038
Imperial Crown - $7,311
Buick Limited - $6,619
Cadillac series 62 - $6,947
Lincoln Continental Mark III - $8,070

The above convertibles were imported from Michigan, thus there were various import duties and taxes added to the cost. The Canadian dollar averaged about $1.03 US during the 1958 model year.



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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-04 6:31 AM (#488870 - in reply to #488866)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-04 6:39 AM (#488871 - in reply to #81647)
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lamar
Posted 2015-09-04 7:01 AM (#488874 - in reply to #488871)
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Location: georgia		Brent, that's him,he is a nice guy.he is a Korean war vet that was wounded.i bought the car about 10 years ago.give him a call and tell him you are a friend of mine and would like to ask him about the car. Here are a few pictures now.



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1960fury
Posted 2015-09-04 9:28 AM (#488881 - in reply to #488874)
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wizard
Posted 2015-09-04 11:40 AM (#488891 - in reply to #81647)
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2015-09-04 11:57 AM (#488892 - in reply to #488874)
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lamar - 2015-09-05 4:01 AM

Brent, that's him,he is a nice guy.he is a Korean war vet that was wounded.i bought the car
about 10 years ago.give him a call and tell him you are a friend of mine and would like to ask
him about the car. Here are a few pictures now.


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That is the backstory I was looking for !

So, this car survives AND you got all the great paperwork with it too ! WOW !
That doesn't happen very often. Wish I had that kind of history for my DeSoto !

What did Mr. Metzler tell you about the car ... why he bough it (over other choices)
and why he didn't junk it like everyone else did with their very expensive 58 Mopar
ragtop ?

Good stuff, Chad !
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1960fury
Posted 2015-09-04 2:04 PM (#488896 - in reply to #488891)
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wizard - 2015-09-04 11:40 AM

The f Picture looks like a '61 Dodge Sid - ooouchh !!!!!!!!


yes i know, i posted pics of that before. just found that one. must have been a high speed accident or truck or train collision. terrible.

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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-04 8:28 PM (#488915 - in reply to #81647)
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jimntempe
Posted 2015-09-04 9:00 PM (#488918 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-04 10:34 PM (#488924 - in reply to #488915)
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I swear I wasn't looking UP there!!!
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Ray
Posted 2015-09-04 11:49 PM (#488928 - in reply to #488844)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2015-09-03 8:50 PM VERY interesting to see that paperwork for the 58 NY'er convertible. SIX THOUSAND 1958 DOLLARS !!! I priced my Fireflite out using the dealer price sheets and came out about the same. That seemed shockingly high, considering my parents bought their rather upscale new home for something in the 13K range about that time. It would be one outrageously expensive car today that would cost half the price of an upscale home. No wonder they did not sell many of them. Makes me wonder what Lincolns, Cadillacs, and Imperials sold for back then !

 

That is $50,000 in today's dollars.

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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-05 10:57 AM (#488956 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-05 10:25 PM (#488998 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-06 7:06 AM (#489016 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-07 8:20 AM (#489100 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-07 8:21 AM (#489101 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-08 5:57 AM (#489206 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-09 6:36 AM (#489306 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-09 6:49 AM (#489309 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-09 6:38 PM (#489344 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-09 7:51 PM (#489351 - in reply to #489344)
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Posted 2015-09-10 12:12 AM (#489359 - in reply to #81647)
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Location: Bothell Wash		Anyone notice how clean the streets are ?

Also.. Maybe I missed it, but I have yet to see one guy holding a sign asking for money in any of these pics..
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2015-09-10 12:35 AM (#489361 - in reply to #489359)
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steve j
Posted 2015-09-10 12:52 AM (#489363 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-10 5:49 AM (#489368 - in reply to #489363)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-10 8:22 AM (#489373 - in reply to #81647)
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D500Jim
Posted 2015-09-11 3:12 AM (#489414 - in reply to #81647)
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1954 DeSoto Firedome on Curacao, Netherlands Antilles





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Posted 2015-09-11 6:28 AM (#489416 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2015-09-11 8:24 AM (#489418 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-11 10:12 AM (#489424 - in reply to #489414)
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D500Jim - 2015-09-11 9:12 AM

1954 DeSoto Firedome on Curacao, Netherlands Antilles



As it is an export market, it might be a DeSoto Diplomat instead ...
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Chrycoman
Posted 2015-09-11 1:07 PM (#489434 - in reply to #81647)
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No, it's the big Firedome. The Diplomat was a Plymouth with a grille similar to the Firedome. The front clip was the same as the Plymouth before 1957.




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Posted 2015-09-12 6:04 AM (#489483 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2015-09-12 11:30 AM (#489492 - in reply to #489483)
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Location: Parts Unknown		In the Mobil color photo above, the 58 Chevy shows a remarkable likeness to a 59
Dodge in the front end. The service/light pole hides the lack of "angry eyebrows",
making the similarity in bumper shape, location of parking lights, and side profile
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-12 11:58 AM (#489493 - in reply to #489492)
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Posted 2015-09-12 3:52 PM (#489499 - in reply to #489493)
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christine-lover
Posted 2015-09-13 5:22 AM (#489517 - in reply to #489499)
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D500Jim
Posted 2015-09-13 5:47 AM (#489518 - in reply to #489424)
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Chrome58 - 2015-09-11 4:12 PM
D500Jim - 2015-09-11 9:12 AM

1954 DeSoto Firedome on Curacao, Netherlands Antilles

As it is an export market, it might be a DeSoto Diplomat instead ...

To make sure, here's a side view





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Posted 2015-09-13 1:12 PM (#489535 - in reply to #81647)
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