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There you go, Neil...
The link from Port Augusta to Kalgoorlie was built after Federation... it was a condition of Western Australia's entry into the Commonwealth of Nations that a federally funded rail link would be established and so a standard gauge line was built.
It linked the narrow gauge (3'6") line from Perth to Kalgoorlie to the narrow gauge stuff that existed in South Australia, while the broad gauge (5'3") Victorian line existed between Melbourne and Adelaide and the standard gauge line ran from Sydney.
In the seventies, standardisation of the gauge along its whole length meant that it became practical to use it for transcontinental travel and freight.
Later the line from Port Augusta to Alice Springs was upgraded and rebuilt as standard gauge, while a new line was built in some remarkably short time (three plants were making millions of concrete sleepers day and night along the line) from Darwin to Alice Springs so there is now a central north-south link. This has transformed shipping into Australia from Asia and Europe, as ships can now berth in Darwin and disgorge their loads of containers and head back north and north west reloaded a fortnight before they would otherwise have been able to do.
Trains two miles long with containers stacked two high then trundle off to Port Augusta. At that point Adelaide and Perth shipments are broken off for despatch in those directions, while the main body of stuff for Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane carries on to to Parkes in Central West New South Wales. At this point a huge freight depot has sprung up, with containers moving into and out of there by rail and road.
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Location: bishop, ca | ...yes, but they looked so good, and performed so well.....
BTW, that 61 Dodge w/the doggies is interesting in that its wheels do not appear to be painted the body-color; those ARE
dog-dishes, aren't they?
And that truck; definitely w/the doggies, has white painted wheels (perhaps matching its roof color---lolol) ?
That Elms Motel, in Bishop, above here, is a happnin' place! That must be a real PC, as it's not photo-chopped from my 'earlier' postcard.
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Location: bishop, ca | BTW (ii): anybody notice anything interesting or unusual about that 58 Dodge, in the Wayne State University photo,
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | d500neil - 2009-09-24 6:17 PM
BTW (ii): anybody notice anything interesting or unusual about that 58 Dodge, in the Wayne State University photo,
up above here?
Hard to tell - is it the eyebrow chrome ? looks bigger than normal, maybe from a Regal ? or the grille emblem ? Come on Neil, Eagle Eye what're you looking for ? Is it the paint scheme ? Sure is a lot of smog in the air there.
The 1960 Dodge wagon to the right of the 58 Dodge is a Polara hardtop wagon, evidenced by the fender top ornaments.
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BTW (ii): anybody notice anything interesting or unusual about that 58 Dodge, in the Wayne State University photo,
up above here?
I was gonna say the trunk and hood are different colors . . . but I'm not real sure I can actually see any part of the trunk.
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Location: Scottsdale, AZ | d500neil - 2009-09-24 6:17 PM BTW (ii): anybody notice anything interesting or unusual about that 58 Dodge, in the Wayne State University photo, up above here? Well, I was going to say something about the back of someone's head........wait, can't go there..................ok, I'll shut up
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Location: bishop, ca | Ah, well.....this car is NUN-udder than a 1958 Regal Lancer, of which a total of 1163 were produced.
This particular car (photographed in the Detroit area) appears in the initial presentation color scheme of Bronze and White; the
other scheme being Bronze and Black.
Slightly later, the additional schemes of White & Bronze, and Black and Bronze were offered.
The break down of the builds, among these four schemes, is not known.
And that would probably be fog, rather than Smog, in Detroit area; note the lack of sunshine in
the photo; Smog like this would typically appear in Sunny, hot, L.A. .
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Location: bishop, ca | Also, call me Anal (others have), but it always bothers me to see mis-aligned windshield wipers; they are very-simply
able to be re-positioned, at the bottom of our windshields, either manually (try it!) or, in worst case scenarios, by removing
them from their pivot-arms and re-installing them in a nice horizontal position at the base of the windshield.
When they're properly positioned/adjusted, they should not slam-into the base of the windshield, and they should 'park'
themselves along the bottom of the W/S, in a straight line.
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Neil, it would be interesting to see how much rust had developed on this 8 yer old Regal, being in the rust belt of Detroit - assuming by the newest car I can see is the 1965 F**D next to it. |
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Location: Pieksamaki, Finland, Europe | Not sure if this one qualifies for this topic, but here is my 1957 Windsor in her home street at Seattle, WA. Figure behind the wheel is the man who originally bought this car in 1957 and kept it until 1986.
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Location: bishop, ca | ...Howabout that 63 PLY convie???---just another car, on the road. Or, that 60 Polara wagon, or, that (8-yr-old-)
58 Regal Lancer---looks to be completely rust free, to me; aren't they ALL, in this photo? (maybe THAT'S why WSU
was so interested In this photo!) .
The photo's Copyright is 2004, so, maybe this pic was taken at that year's annual "Woodward Ave. Cruise"?
Heikki, what year is on your car's license plate, in the photo?
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | d500neil - 2009-09-25 2:44 PM
...Howabout that 63 PLY convie???---just another car, on the road. Or, that 60 Polara wagon, or, that (8-yr-old-)
58 Regal Lancer---looks to be completely rust free, to me; aren't they ALL, in this photo? (maybe THAT'S why WSU
was so interested In this photo!) .
The photo's Copyright is 2004, so, maybe this pic was taken at that year's annual "Woodward Ave. Cruise"?
Heikki, what year is on your car's license plate, in the photo?
The license plates are dark color - look like period license plates.... rather than more current plates.
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Location: Pieksamaki, Finland, Europe |
Heikki, what year is on your car's license plate, in the photo?
Those plates were issued in 1963, they have "Wash 63" on them. My Windsor had these ALW-603 plates from 1963 to 1986. I don't know what was the reason to change plates in 1963.
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Location: Scotland | d500neil - 2009-09-25 3:11 PM
Ah, well.....this car is NUN-udder than a 1958 Regal Lancer, of which a total of 1163 were produced.
This particular car (photographed in the Detroit area) appears in the initial presentation color scheme of Bronze and White; the
other scheme being Bronze and Black.
Slightly later, the additional schemes of White & Bronze, and Black and Bronze were offered.
The break down of the builds, among these four schemes, is not known.
And that would probably be fog, rather than Smog, in Detroit area; note the lack of sunshine in
the photo; Smog like this would typically appear in Sunny, hot, L.A. .
Well spotted as you can barely see the white flash on the drivers fender,I was thinking maybe it's a radio delete car as I couldn't see the aerial.There's a few "65s a Pontiac , Mercury Comet and an Impala.
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Location: bishop, ca | I don't know if that is a Michigan plate on the car (Mark-Fanbladeus?), but, I don't see any antennae on it, either.
In the (high-)northern regions of this country, and across CAN, a lot of cars were built without radios, but, the Regal was the Ultimate-top-bowwow in the Dodge line, and, this photo (as noted by Ian) was taken when that car was at least EIGHT years old, well-into the FM-radio era.
This fact would imply strongly that this Regal still belonged to its original owner, because some subsequent owner(s) would, almost certainly, have wanted to listen to "the radio" while driving the car, and, aftermarket units were commonly available.
ALSO, the car's being in apparently v/good physical condition would appear to reflect an original-owner's attention to its ongoing needs,
as by 1965, it was 'just' a relatively aged, used-car.
(I don't see an antenna on that 60 Polara, either!)
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Look at the fenderskirt at the Chrysler (not many pics at fenderskirt at a 57-59 FL cars)
Last pic -wonder if 59 NY door being repair or if NY go to the junk yard....
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Location: Upper East Tennessee | Looks like they're standing in front of a '61 Dodge.
Here's a caption from the Photo:
Tennessee state troopers congregate outside of a $****e County nightspot, The Thunderbird, in early 1963. State troopers regularly raided taverns in the county during the 1960s. In one New Year's Eve operation in 1962, a team of state troopers fanned out across the county and filed charges against 32 beer joints for operating without state beer certificates
This place still serves the best Hot Wings in East Tennessee!
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Location: Australia | Windsor59 - 2009-09-27 9:29 AM
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Location: bishop, ca | Um, that second PLY-guy is a Rambler American, and, the others are Imperialistic.
Wonder if the sign-board above the Rambler was going to say "Wheels"?
In that "Trainers Restaurant" photo, that 58 Chrysler was aged at least 5 years, so, it may have been its second
(teenage-) owner who installed those toga-skirts, on that 'old' Sara.
Bet that that 61 TN state patrol car had 'more' than the Bent-6, in it, and what county does that
beer-bar reside in, and 'why' the hiding of the county's name, in the photo caption???
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Location: Parts Unknown | You guys are right; '61 Dodges are the nicest cars of all time !   and how 'bout those prices at the pump ? . . . !
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Location: bishop, ca | Kenny/Yikey, multiply those gas prices by about 8/9 and see what you get/got, for your DAILY-driver, back then,
which got 10-ish(+) MPG, for that money, and which needed EVERYTHING-mechanical to be repaired or replaced regularly
(tires were 'good' for less than 30k miles), during its working life, and with the car being considered to be fully-used up or rusted-up
well before before it ever reached 100K, which was a MAJOR milestone in a car's working lifetime...of about 6-10 years, from-new.
Cars are 'disposable', now, but for your $20K-30K(++), you get pretty much a maintenance free-mobile that should have a working
life of 20+ years, and over 200K miles, before they HAVE to be disposed-of.
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Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | All to true, Neil. But the sport of tinkering and tuning seems limited to changing fluids and maintaining tire air pressure.
So we go out and snag some 30-60 year old behemoths and satisfy our mechanical urges by fixing up and maintaining them.
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Location: bishop, ca | As I've mentioned on other threads, one BIG reason why Joe-6-pack/family could so willingly pay so much money
for so little automotive economy is that the family really had very little else to WASTE its disposable income 'on',
like multiple-everythings for everyone in the household, including the 'telephone/communication' systems that missy/junior
just positively can not live without, and expensive designer-everythings....etcetcetc...in the pursuit of immediate-gratification,
and "personal-entitlements".
One TV, one (maybe two) telephones (and maybe a party-line, at that), and a record player/console (if you were living
large) and a radio or two.
No wonder a household could have only one bread winner, and still manage to SAVE money (and have no more than two cars, and
sometimes, NO family cars).
Look at Kenny's photos of public transportation; it was no shame to get dressed up and to get on a bus and to go shopping Downtown.
And, adjusted for inflation, take home pay was very similar, then, as it is today.
We just 'have' to spend more, and to acquire a lot more personal debt, today, to keep up with "everybody-else".
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Location: Montreal, Canada | I found a great bunch of vintage pics with FL cars today in an online archival fund. Sorry about the watermarks, I can't remove them.
All these pics were taken in or around the town of Rivière-du-Loup, Québec, Canada, between 1957 and 1960.
These are from the same photographer (I guess he specialised in weddings!).
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Location: bishop, ca | WOW; just ...wow.
The cars are all very clean and shiny, even in the dead of Winter.
The 57 PLY, above, looks like it had a passenger go into/thru the windshield.
The top boot on the 59 DeSoto fits rather loosely; not very attractive, compared to the adjacent Fart's boot installation.
Anybody ever seen another FWDLK top boot fitting as loosely-poorly as this car's boot?
That DeSoto appears to be a Firedome, but, it does not have the Dodge-style door trim panels on it.
Are these photographs available for sale?
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Location: Montreal, Canada | d500neil - 2009-11-05 2:49 PM
WOW; just ...wow.
The cars are all very clean and shiny, even in the dead of Winter.
The 57 PLY, above, looks like it had a passenger go into/thru the windshield.
The top boot on the 59 DeSoto fits rather loosely; not very attractive, compared to the adjacent Fart's boot installation.
Anybody ever seen another FWDLK top boot fitting as loosely-poorly as this car's boot?
That DeSoto appears to be a Firedome, but, it does not have the Dodge-style door trim panels on it.
Are these photographs available for sale?
Yeah, I said "wow" myself when I found them!.. And the Museum that put that online scanned just part of its collection. They'll be adding more in the future.
IIRC, the convertible Desotos sold in Canada were imported from the US, so the interior features are supposed to be the same as the american models.
The more I look at the pics, the more I notice a bunch of interesting details... Like the inside rearview mirror on the black 1959 Plodge that was moved to the upper part of the windshield.
I can't help but wonder where some of these cars ended up.. The little town where the pics were taken is about an hour from where I grew up and I can tell you I never saw a 1959 Desoto convertible around there!!
Yes the pics are available for sale through the archives' website. I'll enquire about their prices if you want.
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Location: northern germany | d500neil - 2009-10-05 9:16 PM
Cars are 'disposable', now, but for your $20K-30K(++), you get pretty much a maintenance free-mobile that should have a working
life of 20+ years, and over 200K miles, before they HAVE to be disposed-of.
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, let's see; my oldest car, now, is a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with 94K miles on it; got it @ 20K as a lease
turn in, in 1999.
Besides a timing belt, at about 60K (standard replacement protocol) and a battery and one headlight, plus gas-and-oil
that's about it.
My daily driver 04 PT Turbo has 74K, now, bought-new, and has needed NOTHING beyond the timing belt & gas/oil, so YEAH,
I stand by my statement that you quoted, Sid!-----oh, and both cars have had tire replacements since I've owned them.
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Location: northern germany | d500neil - 2009-11-05 4:39 PM
Well, let's see; my oldest car, now, is a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee, with 94K miles on it; got it @ 20K as a lease
turn in, in 1999.
Besides a timing belt, at about 60K (standard replacement protocol) and a battery and one headlight, plus gas-and-oil
that's about it.
My daily driver 04 PT Turbo has 74K, now, bought-new, and has needed NOTHING beyond the timing belt & gas/oil, so YEAH,
I stand by my statement that you quoted, Sid!-----oh, and both cars have had tire replacements since I've owned them.
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Location: bishop, ca | The one-piece "serpentine" timing belt replacement is a Standard-Operating-Procedure which is customarily performed
at 60k miles, regardless whether the timing belt shows obvious wear-cracking, or not.
Kinda like changing your car's engine oil/filter, at X-miles.
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Location: northern germany | d500neil - 2009-11-05 5:13 PM
The one-piece "serpentine" timing belt replacement is a Standard-Operating-Procedure which is customarily performed
at 60k miles, regardless whether the timing belt shows obvious wear-cracking, or not.
Kinda like changing your car's engine oil/filter, at X-miles.
hmm, no answer... well i answered my own question with a google search. looks like its a very labor intense $650 + parts job! 2.5 times as much as i paid for my 184k miles 1960 desoto that runs like new (lol btw, probably with the oe timing chain)
and btw the "standard procedure" is there for a good reason. these cars are known to toss timing belts at 70-90k miles
i can probably do 4000+ lube ups on my car for the $650+
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Location: Scotland | Please try and keep this thread as a record of FLs in their heyday and no argumentative posts,and David it looks like the Quebecois had an excellent taste in cars.to keep a French flavour one from New Orleans.
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Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | I'm shocked that no one has commented upon the 1959 Dodge Sierra SW that was posted in September. Isn't that a D500 emblem on the fin? I don't expect Chrysler made many D500 station wagons!  
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Forwardlooks in old pictures/postcards
