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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910     Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Nice looking car but I fear that the seller is wildly optimistic about his reserve price being met. https://www.allcollectorcars.com/classic-car-auctions/vehicles/1959-... Edited by 56D500boy 2024-01-17 3:06 PM (59Desoto4drSportsmanOnAuction_Jan2024.jpg) Attachments ----------------  59Desoto4drSportsmanOnAuction_Jan2024.jpg (146KB - 25 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | madfins - 2024-01-17 6:22 PM I note during the video tour a lack of a VIN plate on the driver's side front doorframe. Agree. See below. You can see where the VIN tag was (the two empty holes) but no tag. He mentioned that the "data tag" was in the still photos. I didn't see it either (??) Why is it a Firesweep? It doesn't look very 59 Dodge-based to me (???)  Edited by 56D500boy 2024-01-17 10:47 PM (59Desoto4drSportsmanOnAuction_Jan2024_DoorJamMissingVINtag.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 59Desoto4drSportsmanOnAuction_Jan2024_DoorJamMissingVINtag.jpg (147KB - 25 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 655 Location: Finland | I think 59 Desotos are always with an combined vin- and datatag on the cowl. The two holes on the a-pillar look a little strange but is correct. The 59 Firesweep is 4 " shorter than the other us built ones but the front end looks identical on all so that makes the Firesweep fenders and hood a little rarer than the others. I loaned the picture from an other thread. Edited by 22mafeja 2024-01-18 12:28 PM (1959 Firesweep Convertible.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 1959 Firesweep Convertible.JPG (141KB - 24 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 1896  | . 1959 DeSoto Firesweeps were built at the Dodge Hamtramck Plant (the fourth VIN character is “2”); So their data tags looked like ’59 Dodge tags and located on the cowl near right hinge under the hood; 1959 DeSoto Firedomes, Fireflites and Adventurers were built at the Chrysler Jefferson Plant (the fourth VIN character is “1”); Since 1959, DeSoto productions moved from Warren Plant to the Jefferson Plant (Imperial started at the Warren Plant after 1959); Their data tags located on the lower radiator splash panel on the early cars (approx thru the April-May 1959), and on the driver’s door pillar on the later models; Also ’59 Firesweeps were built at Los Angeles Plant (fourth VIN character “4”) and had typical LA-format data plates… Here the original cowl tag picture of this car from my data base; It was taken from another auction where it had been selling earlier; My guessing the optional code “448” on this tag (actually ’59 Dodge order code 458) is mean “Heavy Duty Shocks and Springs”; Although, currently the car has 5-leaf rear springs… if I’ve looked correctly… (cowl tag.JPG) Attachments ---------------- cowl tag.JPG (171KB - 27 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Thanks for that Ralf. So the holes for a VIN plate on the drivers "A" pillar door jam are really for the Dodges that shared the basic shell (and chassis) with the Firesweep. I can just barely see the Cowl Data Tag in the upper left of this engine bay photo, beside the red (Dodge) hood spring:  | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | alwndup - 2024-01-18 1:04 PM Here is a link to buying the car on their site. The asking price is only $36,900! https://www.uniqueclassiccars.com/vehicles/4796/1959-desoto-fireswee... Yup. And this is the cowl data tag with the car's VIN that was mentioned (same as what Igor posted): (59DesotoFiresweepCowlDataTagWithVIN.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 59DesotoFiresweepCowlDataTagWithVIN.jpg (148KB - 27 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | |||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 60 dart - 2024-01-18 2:48 PM I can just barely see the Cowl Data Tag in the upper left of this engine bay photo, beside the red (Dodge) hood spring: how can one tell its a dodge hood spring? ----------------------------------------later Because, I believe, starting in 1956 (or maybe 1955), they were painted red from the factory. Mine (56 Dodge) Before: After removal (what fun that was) and repaint: 1957 Dodges (John S's D500s) and then a 1958 and 1959 Dodge engine bay showing the red springs: (JohnSs57RoyalD500Sedan_EngineBay.jpg) (JohnSs57DodgeD500Sierra_EngineBay.jpg) (58DodgeCoronetEngineBay_ShowingHoodHingeSpringInRed.jpg) (59DodgeCustomRoyalEngineBay_ShowingHoodHingeSpringInRed.jpg) Attachments ---------------- JohnSs57RoyalD500Sedan_EngineBay.jpg (115KB - 24 downloads) JohnSs57DodgeD500Sierra_EngineBay.jpg (123KB - 25 downloads) 58DodgeCoronetEngineBay_ShowingHoodHingeSpringInRed.jpg (149KB - 22 downloads) 59DodgeCustomRoyalEngineBay_ShowingHoodHingeSpringInRed.jpg (147KB - 22 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 8947 Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | |||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 60 dart - 2024-01-18 10:58 PM because they are red, they are dodge? No, they are red because they are Dodge. (Why I do NOT know)  The above are examples from 1956, 1957, 1958 and 1959 Dodges, all with factory red hood hinge springs. Coincidence or.....?  | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . Auction just closed. 2:30 PM EST. Didn't make reserve. Highest bid was $28,500.  | ||
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Expert Posts: 2100 Location: Idaho - where men are men and spuds are spuds | Pretty hard to understand how the '57 Sportsman sold for $73,700 and only $28,500 bid for this????? | ||
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Location: The Mile High City | From the ad: This 1959 Desoto Firesweep Sportsman 4-door hardtop was made in the last year of Virgil Exner’s “”forward look”” design and the last full year for Desoto as a brand. Only 2,875 of this model were made in the last full year of production. I seem to recall a 1960 De Soto!
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9910 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Lancer Mike - 2024-01-26 5:20 PM I seem to recall a 1960 De Soto! Yup. Like this:  And a 1961 too (maybe not a full year though): "Only 3,040 cars were produced for the 1961 model year, 911 two-doors and 2,123 four-doors, when the DeSoto division was officially ended once and for all on November 30, 1960." Only a mother....  Edited by 56D500boy 2024-01-26 9:15 PM | ||
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