RE: IML: OT - Upholstery adhesive

Tom:

I am sending you some links, the first is for a glue that I have been wanting to try, yes is a HVLP sprayable, and is water based. It is supposed to the "end all..glue all," and I really want to try it. It is designed for furniture/upholstery production. I am not a professional trimmer, I have learned everything that I know by reading, watching, and doing. If you are willing to put the time into the trial and error process, I find that personally, I learn the most this way...but everyone is different. I spent countless hours at the library reading books on this, and then I got home and muddle my way through it. My mother was an upholsterer, but sadly I never learned as much as I should have from her when I had the chance...and am now learning the hard way.

The first link is this one for the glue that I am going to try next, professional grade.

http://www.simalfa.com/Products/308.htm

Here is an information link on adhesives, you can email these guys with any questions, and they will give you the information that you need.

http://www.gluguru.com/About%20Bonding.htm

This link is for a DIY show that they did on replacing leather door panels..thought you might be interested. I only worked with leather once quite a number of years ago, and back at that time we used a horse glue of some sort, cannot remember the name. We covered a dash in leather, and it turned out really nice. It lasted for at least five years and likely more, but we sold the car and never heard from the new owner. They say that you have to use a cyanoacrylate type glue on leather, and you can get those through the second link above.

http://www.diynet.com/diy/ab_parts_accessories/article/0,2021,DIY_13690_3084272,00.html

When I decided that I wanted to try my hand at custom interiors, I watched some shows on it, read a lot of books, got videos from the library's and talked to anyone and everyone who would give me input...then I went out and bought some closed cell foam, chipboard, fiberboard, 1/2" plywood, vinyl, and air stapler/brad nailer, and air angle die grinder...and then just went nuts. The first couple of tries were ok, but not fabulous...but I learned a lot...after that, things started getting better and I figured hey...what about flames? So, tried that...the more I tried stuff, the more I learned. I am definitely not an expert on this, but I have had some success at it and really enjoy doing it. If you choose to go this route, just buy cheaper materials that you feel you can use just for the purpose of education.

There is a REALLY good book on this that I recommend to everyone who asks it is called CUSTOM AUTO INTERIORS and is by Ron Mangus. He is awesome, and his books are highly descriptive. He has a website, and I will include that link here for you. I noticed that on his website, he even has "HOW TO" videos. This guy is great, and even though I haven't seen his videos, after reading his book, I can imagine that they are great.

You might try this stuff, and you might not...but this is the way that I went.

http://www.customautointeriors.com/index2.htm

Take care, and good luck...you're gonna need it...LOL

Teresa

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From: TomChoice

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:18 AM

Subject: RE: IML: OT - Upholstery adhesive

Teresa,

Thank you so much for the reply. I have many old spray guns just sitting empty, so I could use one of them, but how long is the pot life on the adhesive? Also, is the same adhesive useable on leather?

Thanks again.

Tom

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Subject: Re: IML: OT - Upholstery adhesive

Tom:

No, it is not regular contact cement. It is a spray cement designed by 3M to be used on vinyl, closed cell foam, and other upholstery materials. You can also buy this by the can at your hardware store, it is called Super 77 by 3M. There is also an even tackier version of this product available. At Home Depot, you will find them in the aisle with paint rollers, masking tapes, and adhesives. You spray each piece that you are going to adhere, allow about 15 minutes or so for the product to become tacky, partially dry, and then place your items together for adhesion and smooth out as necessary. The product should be dry enough that you can still move remove the items from each other if needed to replace or realign (that is...if no significant pressure has been applied), and yet still wet enough that you will get good adhesion. Once you apply significant pressure, don't plan on trying to remove them, and allow to dry thoroughly. Unless you are planning on doing a significant amount of this, I wouldn't see the purpose in buying a spray gun set up personally...but that is just me.

Teresa Smith

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From: TomChoice

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Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:13 AM

Subject: IML: OT - Upholstery adhesive

This may be a bit off topic, but I will be using the answers on my
Imperials :-)

In watching some television programs such as Overhauling and Rides, you
often see upholsterers (trimmers) using a paint type spray gun to apply
adhesive to either the upholstery material or the object to be upholstered
or both. I have a few questions on this.

Is the adhesive regular contact cement? Why does the spray gun not get
constantly plugged? How long can the adhesive be left in the gun cup without
drying out or clogging? What air pressure/nozzle/tip is required?

I know there are some trimmers on this group and I would sure welcome their
answers/advice.

Thank you
Tom

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